Labo is a huge ripoff and a waste of a great concept (so far)

[DonFerrari]

GoOnKid said:

DonFerrari said:

Different customers thinks differently. So the fact that you don't look at estimate cost before thinking you got a good value for your bang doesn't make that true for majority of the market.

Same goes to you. I just pointed out that production costs never justify any price.

Where did I say production costs justify any price? What I said is that if I see a price that is much higher than the cost I won't buy because I would feel ripped-off.

duduspace1 said:

DonFerrari said:

Different customers thinks differently. So the fact that you don't look at estimate cost before thinking you got a good value for your bang doesn't make that true for majority of the market.

1 - By saying they have ONE option you basically are removing them the right to complain, you know that on a free market everyone is both free to buy/not buy and also complain/props any product right?

You reach to make both the same, that is on you not on anyone else. No one said customer are stupid for buying something just because they are saying Nintendo is ripping them off. There are several types of customers and reasons to buy something, and sometimes a person even thinks is being ripped off buy will buy anywway because wants to have. The OP is saying he was ripped off, do you think he is also saying he is stupid?

2 - You are mixing points in there. GoW have sold low on Japan on every entry so no one was surprised that this entry also done low on Japan. But sure for the Japanese market they don't see value on the game even if they were to see the cost. If the ones that bought or not felt ripped off I can't tell since I'm not in Japan to ask.

3 - A lot of unmoved inventory WW shows that the ones that matter (Nintendo and stores) for projections had higher expectations. If you had lower and is positively surprised by the sales it isn't of my concern.

4 - It wasn't a month of high sales in NPD for SW and you can see the very low if any impact it had for the Switch. But if you want to believe it sold incredible good for you.

Next are you going to say CoD is a failure compared to Splatoon because it sold less in Japan?

1. Read my post again, and take note of the part that says everybody has a right to complain but also others have a right to challenge them on what they are complaining about since they additionally have an option to spend their money as they wish to buy or not to buy.

2. That point is irrelevant, the point is that if a person uses the fact that they consider Labo to have sold low numbers as a reason to say it is a rip off, then the verdict is loud and clear from Japan that GOW (the entire series) is a rip off. That point is solely about the concept that the value one attaches to something is largely based on the utility it provides for them. In this case 'Enjoyment and Relaxation'.

3. That is your own assumption on the stock inventory situation, I have also heard alternative explanations for example that inventories are based on retailer projections. Labo is new, so it is well within the realm of possibility that projections are off some people's expectations.

4. Another assumption on your part, that the generally low sales affects every single game SKU which you cannot actually be definitive on until you have actual numbers for sale. In terms of relative performance though, in the month Labo has done well.

I am not in the business of saying a game is a failure until it has enough time in the market to make such judgements. I can make a distinction between outstanding sales, middling sales and a flop. I would call neither Splatoon nor COD a flop. I leave that to those who are prone to questionable judgements based on their platform affiliations.

1 - Unfortunately you phrased it much more as they shouldn't complain, they should just not buy it. But last I remind opinions aren't facts to be challenged. Or do you expect people to say you are feeling wrong whenever you say a feeling you have?

2 - Your point makes zero sense, the product isn't restricted to Japan and almost every full game release for 60USD. Labo isn't a full game, and is 80USD.

3 - My own assumption? Funny that you agreed with me that their projections were over what they actually sold, so that basically agrees with the relevant parties having higher projection than the sales.

4 - What assumption? I have talked about Switch not having a bump in sales, check NPD and see how much it sold (almost on pair with X1 and a lot lower than PS4), Labo didn't spring Switch sales on the month it released.

I haven't seem anyone here say it is a flop, so are you reaching much? First month sales in VGC is usually considered enough time to put expectations in perspective and see that WW Labo didn't took-off, sure it can in the future.