Labo is a huge ripoff and a waste of a great concept (so far)

[duduspace1]

DonFerrari said:

GoOnKid said:

No, I compare the price to how much I want to have a certain product and what alternatives there are.

Doesn't surprise me anymore since you've already mentioned that like a thousand times. Funny side note: I avoid iPhones, too. High Five. For different reasons, though, but still.

Different customers thinks differently. So the fact that you don't look at estimate cost before thinking you got a good value for your bang doesn't make that true for majority of the market.

duduspace1 said:

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I don't recall saying anyone who wants to complain should not. I have only questioned the basis on which their complaint is made. Those who feel they are being ripped off already have a recourse.......They should not buy the product.

I do like your spin on the claim that Nintendo ripping people off though, from where I stand Saying those who buy Labo are stupid and that Nintendo is ripping them off are exactly one and the same. It assumes a patronising position that those people buying Labo are not smart enough to figure it out for themselves that they are being ripped off.

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You say GOW have sold so much every entry but then overlook the fact that Labo is not only a new game but is also a totally new concept as to its creative aspect which will take time to be understood and accepted hence why it shouldn't be judged hastily.

 

3. Yes, 'some' meaning 'not all'. Need I explain that any further ? If you wan't to believe that everyone believes that Labo has underperformed, then you are very welcome. If you need specifics on the spread of those who believe it has underperformed and those who believe it is well on track, you are welcome to put up a poll.

 

4. There is a basis to attack 'anything' so that isn't saying much really. And yes, I do see production costs and value in the software to validate its price tag even if I am currently not interested in it myself, furthermore you don't need to ask me that question, you can ask all those who have bought it in Japan to put it above GOW sales or those who have bought it in the US to make it one of the top selling software for the month according to NPD.

1 - By saying they have ONE option you basically are removing them the right to complain, you know that on a free market everyone is both free to buy/not buy and also complain/props any product right?

You reach to make both the same, that is on you not on anyone else. No one said customer are stupid for buying something just because they are saying Nintendo is ripping them off. There are several types of customers and reasons to buy something, and sometimes a person even thinks is being ripped off buy will buy anywway because wants to have. The OP is saying he was ripped off, do you think he is also saying he is stupid?

2 - You are mixing points in there. GoW have sold low on Japan on every entry so no one was surprised that this entry also done low on Japan. But sure for the Japanese market they don't see value on the game even if they were to see the cost. If the ones that bought or not felt ripped off I can't tell since I'm not in Japan to ask.

3 - A lot of unmoved inventory WW shows that the ones that matter (Nintendo and stores) for projections had higher expectations. If you had lower and is positively surprised by the sales it isn't of my concern.

4 - It wasn't a month of high sales in NPD for SW and you can see the very low if any impact it had for the Switch. But if you want to believe it sold incredible good for you.

Next are you going to say CoD is a failure compared to Splatoon because it sold less in Japan?

1. Read my post again, and take note of the part that says everybody has a right to complain but also others have a right to challenge them on what they are complaining about since they additionally have an option to spend their money as they wish to buy or not to buy.

2. That point is irrelevant, the point is that if a person uses the fact that they consider Labo to have sold low numbers as a reason to say it is a rip off, then the verdict is loud and clear from Japan that GOW (the entire series) is a rip off. That point is solely about the concept that the value one attaches to something is largely based on the utility it provides for them. In this case 'Enjoyment and Relaxation'.

3. That is your own assumption on the stock inventory situation, I have also heard alternative explanations for example that inventories are based on retailer projections. Labo is new, so it is well within the realm of possibility that projections are off some people's expectations.

4. Another assumption on your part, that the generally low sales affects every single game SKU which you cannot actually be definitive on until you have actual numbers for sale. In terms of relative performance though, in the month Labo has done well.

I am not in the business of saying a game is a failure until it has enough time in the market to make such judgements. I can make a distinction between outstanding sales, middling sales and a flop. I would call neither Splatoon nor COD a flop. I leave that to those who are prone to questionable judgements based on their platform affiliations.

Last edited by duduspace1 - on 20 May 2018