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Zoombael said:
Qwark said:

As long as the PS4 is selling 16 million units in a single year why should they. Launching a new console isn't all that profitable. So yes as long as Sony is selling a shot ton of PS4 units (demand), third parties are willing to support (support) it and there isn't a new rivaling system, why would they release a new system. Sony litteraly has no reason to release a new console as long as its selling very well.

Obviously sales are going to slow down in a few years till they hit ten million. Than there isn't enough demand for the PS4 and Sony should release a PS5 or gamers are going to pc. Regardless of Xbox makes a new console, but that will take at least till 2021.

 

MS on the other hand isn't doing to well so they have the initiative to launching a new console to turn the tables or they will leave the console business. So let them and third parties decide when the next gen starts. As for Nintendo they do their own thing and PS and Nintendo aren't really affecting each other at the moment.

Is it wise to wait for the competition to make the crucial move, taking the risk of reacting and consequently lagging behind? It would be bold, considering the competitor has resources to match your own or even exceeding them. It didn't turn out well the last time Sony thought they're on top of things.

What's imperative, as a company, is to pursue your own game, be proactive, not just to stay ahead in an ongoing race, but to be ready for the next round and look for new ways to expand.

"The expert in battle moves the enemy, and is not moved by him". Sun Tzu

 

What people like to completely ignore in this discussion (especially on VGC) is VR.

https://www.techradar.com/news/virtual-reality-displays-just-got-upgraded-to-1001-ppi-will-we-see-it-in-playstation-vr-2

How long do you recommend Sony should wait for the next big step in their virtual reality endeavour? PS5 2021/22 ... PS VR II 2023/24 or even later? Seven or more years after the predecessor was launched?

Gaming hardware has come to a point where straightforward more power doesn't have the weight it used to have. Why wait on 'updating' old (base) hardware, when graphics weren't perceived as impactful at the transition 6th - 7th gen anyway? The PS4p is an intermediate step to follow the trend of shortened technology life cycles. The X1X too of course. But Sony didn't pour as much resources into it as MS. Understandibly. It's not suppose to prolong the inevitable. Rather concentrate efforts on the next generation to come and start it... according to strategy. Not according what the others might do or don't do.

It's save to say PS5 will have backwards compatibility. One reasons why they did go for a more economical hardware solution, to close the chapter of isolated architecture as we ve seen with a Ps2/Ps3 and homogenize the hardware ecosystem.

I think Sony should release their console in the holidays of 2020. Sony should release PSVR gen 2 during the holiday of 2021 or 2022. With a PS5 pro releasing in 2024 for 4k VR. While the original PSVR remains compatible with the PS5. We are in an era of diminishing returns so even if the X2 launches in 2019. Sony can rely on the PS4 for a year longer and easily counter it with a more powerful and cheaper console in 2020.

MS only beated Sony barely in a gen, with a headstart of a year whilst Sony literally fucked everything up. In general Playstation is a much more powerful brand than the Xbox, which was made painfully clear this gen. Even the PS4 pro is outselling the Xone X if still only 20% of the PS4 units sold are PS4 pros.

Surely Sony shouldn't sit back but PS5 development started in December 2013 anyway. They continually are making concepts and probably have designed  most things around the PS5 already. The only thing they probably don't have is the defenitive CPU and GPU.

So if I where Sony I would hold on to Sony's own schedule (which is flexible) and based on the current position of Sony. Most likely they can easily release the PS5 in 2020 instead of 2019. MS can't release the X2 in 2019 without serious backlash, since MS released the X1X in 2017. I also doubt that MS is willing to wait till 2021. MS has more to win than Sony.

So the most likely and preferably scenario is when both consoles release Q4 2020. A period of 7 years is fine for a console gen, especially with mid gen updates. Playstation is the stronger home console brand, but MS can surely do better next gen. Also third parties probably have a say when the next gen starts.

Last edited by Qwark - on 13 May 2018

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