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KManX89 said:
Machiavellian said:

Actually because of all the crazy talk from Trump is what got South Korea to start thinking that its best to get the US out of their affairs then worry about NK having Nukes.  Things started before Trump and his mouth during the Winter Olympics.  NK and SK goal has always been to become united into one regime to control their space. 

You believe Trump tough talk convinced NK to denuclearize but instead its Trump talks that got South Korea to think about getting US troops and US interest out of the area.  This is why talks moved quickly with NK and SK, and then NK and China.  China wants dominance in that area and is more than happy to let Trump stroke himself if the US gets out so they can move in.  SK probably is thinking, I rather have the enemy I know then the fool I cannot predict running amok and starting a war no one wants.  With anything political, its not the stuff you see but the stuff happening behind the scenes that is really moving things.

So yes, I give Trump all the praise that he moved things along towards this moment but its not exactly what you think it is and the outcome will not favor the US.

Let's not kid ourselves into thinking Trump denuclearized NK, the NK media themselves said he had nothing to do with it and warned the US not to mislead the world into believing so.

hmmm, I did not think what i wrote gave the impression I was giving Trump benefit for denuclearizing NK.  Instead, I was stating that because of him, China, NK and SK believe they can remove the US from their affairs and China believes they can be the big stick in the region.