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thismeintiel said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

lol Kim went behind Trump's back to talk peace with the S.Korean President. I highly doubt Trump has anything to do with it.

Wasn't all that crazy talk from Trump supposed to drive us into WW3?  As well as flexing our might, parking several aircraft carriers next to North Korea?  So, you think that all of a sudden crazy Kim Jong Un woke up one day, after decades of North Korea trying to play big dog, and decided to go all peace talks?  And just release several prisoners, without anything in return, for our Secretary of State to take on his jet?  And requested talks with the US, not other countries?  And that had nothing to do with Trump's actions?  Sure...

Actually because of all the crazy talk from Trump is what got South Korea to start thinking that its best to get the US out of their affairs then worry about NK having Nukes.  Things started before Trump and his mouth during the Winter Olympics.  NK and SK goal has always been to become united into one regime to control their space. 

You believe Trump tough talk convinced NK to denuclearize but instead its Trump talks that got South Korea to think about getting US troops and US interest out of the area.  This is why talks moved quickly with NK and SK, and then NK and China.  China wants dominance in that area and is more than happy to let Trump stroke himself if the US gets out so they can move in.  SK probably is thinking, I rather have the enemy I know then the fool I cannot predict running amok and starting a war no one wants.  With anything political, its not the stuff you see but the stuff happening behind the scenes that is really moving things.

So yes, I give Trump all the praise that he moved things along towards this moment but its not exactly what you think it is and the outcome will not favor the US.