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Chazore said:
Azzanation said:

Hey you might be right however you can also be wrong. We dont know what the future will hold and right now the UWP is not that old. Its a new service compared to Windows Live so lets keep that as two separate things.

Valve and Blizzard are two of my favorite brands followed by MS in 3rd place. I am talking logical here not bias. My Steam accound eclipses my Live account by miles and my Blizzard account sees more time than both Steam and Live put together. 

Point is MS are pushing the UWP and you can already see the bunch of AAA games that Steam does not offer, might not be much now to convert gamers over however UWP has a long way to go to build up the library but when it does and things like Game Pass and having Win10 Store built into every Windows 10 device plus the play anywhere feature, it starts becoming more a factor. 

Steam is also full of some of the worst games iv ever played, those thousands of games you are referring to can be quite pathetic. Id much rather Nintendo and Xboxs approach of quality control than just opening up the flood gates for just about anything.

Valve like to take there time with things however can they compete with all the future Timed Exclusives, 1st party games and things like Gamepass and all the other features Live offers? Will see. 

Also remember just about all the current big title games can also be played on Win10 plus majority of Xbox games aswell. Aside from cheaper games there isnt much Steam is offering as a benefit over its competitors, they have gotten lazy.

Like scientists use data to predict what might/might not happen, we've had data over the years to see what MS will/will not do. And currently they are still trying to put more and more focus on their Xbox console side than they are their PC side.

UWP has been a thing since Windows 8, which was 5 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Windows_Platform

We all like different things, but we all have a bias for something else that bit more than others. For me it was Blizzard. Before that it was Westwood.

Well the way you keep arguing for MS seems to tell a largely different story. 

 

I see them pushing UWP in a way that's simply sidelining PC, while delivering for the Xbox, and not really having them doing much for the PC side. A "bunch of AAA games that Steam does not offer"?. You mean the games that have been recycled and played safe?, not exactly the kind setting the world on fire and selling a lot like PuB. Steam has AAA games being sold on it's store monthly. it has more AAA games coming into it's store than MS's Win 10 store.

Game pass is utterly trite for someone like me who has zero intention of getting an Xbox, and I know you're going to utter (but it works for someone that is", yet you'd be kicking me out of the equation, rather than admitting that GP only works for those actually interested in not owning their games and wanting to buy an Xbox.

Origin, Uplay and GoG are full of some of the worst games I've played in years. Battle.net seems to be the only client out there that has more good games I like playing than bad ones.

Those "thousand" games I was talking about, are actually the games that are reviewed positively and games that span back decades. You on the other hand see thousands as the poorly received games. I'd much rather an open store, than a closed off pathetic walled garden, which morphs your mind into one that makes you think you're "unbiased".

"Valve like to take there time with things however can they compete with all the future Timed Exclusives, 1st party games and things like Gamepass and all the other features Live offers? Will see."

I'd really love to see your general answer for that, because the bias is clearly wanting to say "no". Come on, don't be shy, just speak your mind and let me know.

Actually you know what?, speak your mind generally. I want to hear how grand MS is going to be within 5 years time, and how poorly Steam will have gotten by then. It's been obvious with how you talked about the two with Pemalite, and now it's become obvious to me.

You tend to think i have this unbias appoach to MS compared to other brands. I stated Valve and Blizzard are my 1 2 combo. Look me up on both and check out my accounts. I reckon i use Steam more than most on this site.

I love Steam however Steam lately is lacking. They have done nothing new apart from the slightly cheaper games advantage. I want them to start pushing there service more instead of doing the same thing for the past 15 years. 

I think the bias comes from gamers who have no eye sight in the protential of a brand, calling something dead or not having a chance. Remember Nintendo with the WiiU and look at them now with the Switch. I want to see more from Valve aside from them pocketing our money while they do nothing. Atleast id give respect to MS for trying to be different and competing. 

Right now i am in a toss up weather to buy a game on Steam or Live because MS offers Play anywhere and cross play while Steam is just the same game at a slightly cheaper price point. If Live starts offering similar prices to Steam and adding all there features plus Backlog of Xbox exclusives i am starting to see me favoring them. This is where Valve needs to step up to stay ahead.

And to anwser your mod support comment. I dont care for mods, and i wont be the only one out there that thinks the same either. I rather a stable service and servers thats supported well.