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Miyamotoo said:
DélioPT said:

 

Thats a different, but if we look at everything they said about this E3, sounds similar, why they again said "Nintendo will focus its E3 activities on games coming soon"!? Also what exatly "featured" means!? They can show short trailer or gave us announcements of some game that dont come in 2018. and at later date we will get more infos about that game. Also even in Twitter announcement they said "a video presentation focusing on #NintendoSwitch games coming this year".

Again, do you want to bet that they will definitely show/announce some 2019. games at E3!?

 

Your problem was that you couldnt accept that Nintendo is focusing on titles that will be released in near future, not on games that will be released in year or two. They did actually announce more games after E3 for instance in September Direct, and now at E3 they will announce more 2018. games that are not yet announced and we will again most likly have some 2018. announcements even after E3 like we had last year. Also do you remember that you were saying Switch want have nothing in Q1 of 2018. because they didnt gave us any release date for 2018/2019. games from E3 2017. and than they later announced that Bayonetta 1/2 will be released in February and Kirby in March!?

Again you are wrong and you clearly dont know what are you talking about, basically hole Switch 1H 2018. lineup except Kirby is announced after E3 2017. (actualy most of them were announced after December), Bayonetta 1/2, Kirby, Nintendo Labo, South Park, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Battle Chasers Nightwar, Hyrule Warriors: Definite Edition, Mega Man: Legacy Collection 1+2, Little Nightmares: Complete Edition, Mario Tennis Aces, YS YIII: Lacrimosa of DANA, Street Fighter: 30th Anniversary Collection, LEGO Incredibles, Wolfenstein II: The New Colussus...

Again you show that you clearly dont know what are you talking about, in first half of 2018. there are 3 new games: Kirby, Labo and Mario Tennis.

 

Wrong again, you said 10 titles, I mentioned 12 titles, so you are wrong even if you dont count M+R. Its crazy to not count M+R when game was in Spotlight and game was announced at E3 and was released only around 2 months after announcement.

Fifa was not new announcement, we already know that Fifa is coming to Switch, Rocket League was new announcement so it made more sense to have more time for new announcement, it's clear sense.

How can they waste time on ARMS when game was releasing only 3 days after Nintendo Spotlight, it made totaly sense to market that game, same could be said for any other game they showed and that was previously announced including Fifa. Acutaly they did, they announced Pokemon and Metroid Prime 4 announcements were to calm shitstorm because Pokemon and Metroid Prime announcements just for 3DS and no for Switch, totally logical and understandable move from Nintendo. Ask your self why those two games were only announcements without even trailer or year release, do you relly think that's coincidence that before those two kind of announcements, they already announced Metroid and Pokemon for 3DS and we had shitstorm because those IPs dont coming to Switch!? Your point that they didnt had anuthing else to announce so they announced Metroid and Pokemon also dont make sense, because they could announced Mario Tennis and Smash Bros for instance if they wanted but they didnt. Nintendo changed quite a lot with Switch with way how they managing things but you still fail too see that.

Fact is that had 6 new announcements in Nintendo E3 Spotlight, how much games they showed dont change that fact.

 

Not just we dont disagree, but you clearly in most cases dont know what are you talking about and you are very often wrong, so again, I relly dont see point of continue with this, so I will not reply any more to you on this matear. But you could at least answer to me, do you want to bet that they will definitely show/announce some 2019. games at E3!?

Their messaging seems inconsistent because, probably, they don't feel like they need to repeat every single detail, every single time to talk about it.
Their press release for E3 is crystal clear.

You are literally focusing on what's not important. The news here is what they added - unlike in other years - about games coming after 2018.
The rest is more of the same and that's why i said, from the start, that this time their E3 plans were different.

No, no bets.

 

Honestly i only remember saying something about the first half. But if you say it, i'll trust you.
But, was i wrong? What Nintendo made title is there for the first half? None.
You can say Labo is a game, but we won't agree on that, that's for sure.
I'm not ignoring ports and 3rd party titles, i'm talking about Nintendo games. The same thing i have been saying for a long time (remember when i compared Wii U's and Switch's first 10 months?). I have been talking about Nintendo's own games, first and foremost.

Labo isn't a game, period.
Kirby and Mario Tennis aren't 1st party games. And in that regard, Nintendo has not done well.

I counted wrongly. I should have said 11 (i even had a list here).
We were talking about new game announcements and therefore, M+R does not count.

First you said that Fifa had a correct amount of time because it wasn't exclusive. Now, it's because it wasn't a new announcement. ;)
That argument is not relevant: when you have a game of that caliber you use it to your advantage. That's the actual reason why Rocket League was shown/revealed that way. Same goes for Skyrim, btw.

 

"totally logical and understandable move from Nintendo"
Really?
So, your idea to handle a "bad" situation is to just come out, running, and announce something of that magnitude? You speak as if people didn't already expect a Pokémon game on Switch.
Exactly what did Nintendo announce after the really bad reception that Federation Force got when announced? Or, what did Nintendo announce when Retro revealed that their new game would be another DK game (Wii U era)?
Nintendo does NOT run their business like that: when things go sour they manage it. They don't go announcing things everytime something bad is ill received by fans.

I stand by what i said: they announced Pokémon and MP4 because they had no other heavyweights that they could spare for E3.
Just look at the release Schedule. What's the big title announced since E3? Smash.
Pokémon may or not get released in 2018, but even their latest release schedule says "2018 or later".

They could have announced Smash. Sure. And then what would they have for E3 this year?
They managed what they have to show.