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Veknoid_Outcast said:
Nymeria said:

Reviewing your scores I'd wonder if you either are harder on films in general or if you don't enjoy these MCU as much as I do. On rewatching only Iron Man 3 and Thor Ragnarok were a real chore for me.

Probably more of the latter. MCU movies, and superhero flicks in general, tend to have a low ceiling. Feige et al. have done a great job in the MCU of raising the floor, so that most installments operate in a space that ranges from mediocre to good, but very few of them transcend those upper limits. You can only be so interesting and creative and daring when you're trying to sell your product to everyone on the planet.

I mostly agree with you.  For example Civil War is my favorite movie, but I would have a hard time recommending it to a film buff if I knew they disliked superhero movies.  I mean the main reason why I like Civil War is that I get to see all my geeky fantasies come to life on the big screen.

On the other hand Black Panther is just an objectively good film.  I know one big thing in any film that I look for, and what many film buffs look for, is just to have a unique and interesting experience when they go to the movies.  In that respect Black Panther delivers in spades.  When I watched Black Panther I forgot I was even watching an MCU movie.  Because it is so unique I think you could judge against any other movie, and I would still give it 4 out of 5 stars on a universal movie scale.  I think the Guardians movies are somewhat like this too, since they are really sci-fi movies and not super hero movies.

I have some film buff friends who I know are tired of super hero movies.  When Black Panther came out I was going to recommend the film to them anyway, because I knew they would love it.  It turns out that when I saw them, they brought up Black Panther first to recommend the movie to me.  Black Panther simply breaks out of the MCU box and becomes its own unique film.