OhNoYouDont said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"Even if we take the study prima facie it does NOT support your idea of "rape culture" which would be a predominant view"

a culture does not have to be the predominant view of the society... west indians for example have a particular type of culture that differs from most of the society but they are still a part of the society

 

"Problem two for you is when the question is presented as a rape shown here:

When asked whether they would act on “intentions to rape a woman” with the same assurances they wouldn’t face consequences, just 13.6 percent of participants agreed."

...which was the point

"But, when the researchers actually used the word “rape” in their question, those numbers dropped much lower — suggesting that many college men don’t associate the act of forcing a woman to have sex with them with the crime of committing rape."

the point being that the men did not consider coercing a woman to have sex to be a crime/rape... how did you not understand that?

 

"Problem three is trying to compare India to any Western culture at all as if it were an analogous setting. "

which was not the main point of this thread... the point was simply that women who face a more severe problem with rape in indian have looked to arming themselves as a solution and i'm asking if that may be a viable solution for the problems with the rape culture in the west

 

"It's just insane to me that you cannot even be bothered to take a step backward from your intransigence to see things objectively as they are."

and what would be the objective way of viewing things in this context?


ah i remember you, you're that guy that posted all of that nonsense on my wall because you couldn't understand the connection between technology and waste... how are you man?

LOL here we go again.

Let's start with your own words (from OP):

“Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. "

Show me where the act of rape is normalized and excused in the west. Oh instead you cite a study which actually establishes the exact opposite of this. 

Objectivity would lead to the rather abundantly obvious conclusion that rape culture doesn't exist in the west champ. Are you going to start talking about the wage gap next, Mr. SJW?

Did you learn the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic yet? Obviously not if you're still clinging to a rather asinine perspective about technology, Luddite. What a walking contradiction...

 

"Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booknews/9459779/50-Shades-of-Grey-is-best-selling-book-of-all-time.html

well as an example the best selling book of all time besting the final entry in the harry potter series was 50 shades of grey in 2012 and that may probably still be the case

https://endsexualexploitation.org/fiftyshadesgrey/

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/aug/13/science/la-sci-sn-fifty-shades-of-grey-sexual-emotional-abuse-20130812

a book widely criticised for promoting sexual abuse and violence

 

arguably some of the most popular musical artists like eminem, 50 cent, etc are known for lyrics that promote violence against women

 

"You and your husband have a fight

One of you tries to grab a knife
And during the struggle he accidentally gets his Adams apple sliced
(No!)
And while this is goin' on
His son just woke up and he just walks in
She panics and he gets his throat cut
(Oh my God!)
So now they both dead and you slash your own throat
So now it's double homicide and suicide with no note
I should have known better when you started to act weird
We could've, hey! where you going? get back here!
You can't run from me Kim
It's just us, nobody else!
You're only making this harder on yourself
Ha! ha! got you!
(Ah!)
Ha! go ahead yell!
Here I'll scream with you!
Ah somebody help!
Don't you get it bitch, no one can hear you?
Now shut the fuck up and get what's comin' to you
You were supposed to love me
Now bleed! bitch bleed!
Bleed! bitch bleed! bleed!
So long, bitch you did me so wrong
I don't want to go on
Living in this world without you"
the porn industry and the modelling industry have been widely criticised for objectifying women

 https://fightthenewdrug.org/how-watching-porn-erodes-views-of-women/

 

and i could go and on and on... where have you been living? under a rock?

 

" Oh instead you cite a study which actually establishes the exact opposite of this. "

But, when the researchers actually used the word “rape” in their question, those numbers dropped much lower — suggesting that many college men don’t associate the act of forcing a woman to have sex with them with the crime of committing rape."

the point being that the men did not consider coercing a woman to have sex to be a crime/rape... how did you not understand that?

 

"Objectivity would lead to the rather abundantly obvious conclusion that rape culture doesn't exist in the west champ."

well based on objective standards such as the types of media we consume that is debatable as i have demonstrated

 

"Did you learn the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic yet? Obviously not if you're still clinging to a rather asinine perspective about technology, Luddite."

have you been able to think of a form of technology that does not produce waste? i'm still waiting on you... its been a few months now and counting

Last edited by o_O.Q - on 16 April 2018