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OhNoYouDont on 16 April 2018
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o_O.Q said:
OhNoYouDont said:

Jesus Christ, here we go again with your inability to comprehend what is right in front of your face.

Even if we take the study prima facie it does NOT support your idea of "rape culture" which would be a predominant view (see: normalized) that rape is acceptable. Your own source is replete with issues and at best only supports the notion of 1/6th of society normalizing rape. (1/2 male, then 1/3 of males). In what universe is that normalized?

Now, let's move forward to the actual study which involved a mere 73 men on a single campus. That's problem 1. Problem two for you is when the question is presented as a rape shown here:

When asked whether they would act on “intentions to rape a woman” with the same assurances they wouldn’t face consequences, just 13.6 percent of participants agreed.

So now we're entering sub 7% of the population.

Problem three is trying to compare India to any Western culture at all as if it were an analogous setting. 

It's just insane to me that you cannot even be bothered to take a step backward from your intransigence to see things objectively as they are.

 

"Even if we take the study prima facie it does NOT support your idea of "rape culture" which would be a predominant view"

a culture does not have to be the predominant view of the society... west indians for example have a particular type of culture that differs from most of the society but they are still a part of the society

 

"Problem two for you is when the question is presented as a rape shown here:

When asked whether they would act on “intentions to rape a woman” with the same assurances they wouldn’t face consequences, just 13.6 percent of participants agreed."

...which was the point

"But, when the researchers actually used the word “rape” in their question, those numbers dropped much lower — suggesting that many college men don’t associate the act of forcing a woman to have sex with them with the crime of committing rape."

the point being that the men did not consider coercing a woman to have sex to be a crime/rape... how did you not understand that?

 

"Problem three is trying to compare India to any Western culture at all as if it were an analogous setting. "

which was not the main point of this thread... the point was simply that women who face a more severe problem with rape in indian have looked to arming themselves as a solution and i'm asking if that may be a viable solution for the problems with the rape culture in the west

 

"It's just insane to me that you cannot even be bothered to take a step backward from your intransigence to see things objectively as they are."

and what would be the objective way of viewing things in this context?


ah i remember you, you're that guy that posted all of that nonsense on my wall because you couldn't understand the connection between technology and waste... how are you man?

LOL here we go again.

Let's start with your own words (from OP):

“Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. "

Show me where the act of rape is normalized and excused in the west. Oh instead you cite a study which actually establishes the exact opposite of this. 

Objectivity would lead to the rather abundantly obvious conclusion that rape culture doesn't exist in the west champ. Are you going to start talking about the wage gap next, Mr. SJW?

Did you learn the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic yet? Obviously not if you're still clinging to a rather asinine perspective about technology, Luddite. What a walking contradiction...