| Jaicee said: Since many of our members seem to have reached the disingenuous conclusion that there is no such thing as a rape-positive climate in the Western world, I have a few challenges for those individuals. The first challenge is how you explain the fact that #MeToo originated in the United States. What was that a response to, would you say? The second challenge is how you explain the fact that Donald Trump is my president right now, being as he won election shortly AFTER being caught on video boasting about sexually attacking women on a routine basis. Would you say that his election signaled public disapproval of such actions? As a third challenge, how does one explain the testimony of the public itself concerning the commonality of sexual harassment and violence in America? According to a recent, comprehensive national survey on the subject: -81% of women and 43% of men surveyed say that they have experienced sexual harassment before. I will add that both of those statistics include me personally. In fact, wittingly or otherwise, you (any given individual) in all likelihood actively participate in rape-positive culture on a daily basis. Here's a particularly obvious example of how: demographically speaking, the average member of this message board consumes online pornography routinely. What are the social roles that one is thereby feeding their brains? The essential thing that one inescapably learns from pornography is that, supposedly, women derive pleasure from any and all dominant behavior that a man can possibly exhibit, up to and frequently including the violation of basic consent. Hell, even being mutilated in a sexual context is commonly portrayed as pleasurable for the female party or parties! You don't think that might have any cumulative impact on what sort of behavior one is willing to let slide in the real world? My point is that the evidence of what many feminists refer to as rape-positive culture is right in front of your faces! It's frankly hard to miss. One has to try to miss it anymore. The fact that there are more extreme expressions thereof to be found in some other countries (such as the fact that women who speak out against sexual harassment and violence are actively censored in China, for instance) does not preclude this reality or render it okay in my mind. I regard the "Third World women have it worse, so you can't complain" line of argument to be an opportunistic one used predominantly by First World men to strategically divide women against each other so that we do not think about inconvenient things like what we have in common and the shared source of these oppressions. |
a lot of good points here
"The first challenge is how you explain the fact that #MeToo originated in the United States. What was that a response to, would you say?"
the only sensible answer would be a rape culture i would think
" the fact that Donald Trump is my president right now, being as he won election shortly AFTER being caught on video boasting about sexually attacking women on a routine basis."
is this about what happened with stormy daniels?
"81% of women and 43% of men surveyed say that they have experienced sexual harassment before."
that's 4 out of 5... that's insane
"27% of women and 7% of men surveyed say that they been sexually attacked before"
how do they differentiate between the attacks and harassment?
"In fact, wittingly or otherwise, you (any given individual) in all likelihood actively participate in rape-positive culture on a daily basis. Here's a particularly obvious example of how: demographically speaking, the average member of this message board consumes online pornography routinely. "
good point, porn is exclusively about the objectification of women and is now more popular than ever
i honestly don't see how someone can advocate for the fair treatment of women and watch porn, the two things are like oil and water, you cannot mix them because of the attitudes and entitlement porn propagates in the minds of men about women
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