The American family is falling apart

[CrazyGamer2017]

sundin13 said:

CrazyGamer2017 said:

NO, I'm telling YOU for the sake of my example that the part of town in question is dangerous. Me, the person that decides to walk there does not know it's dangerous, obviously. If I knew it was dangerous It would not be a mistake of my part, it would be pure stupidity, knowing of a danger and still going towards it. So my point is I walk there without knowing it's specifically dangerous. That's what I mean when i said I walk to a dangerous part of town.

I'm sorry but it's obvious I did not know it's a dangerous part of town, why would anyone go on purpose, alone and on foot towards a danger?

Why would anyone marry someone else if they know in advance he/she is a rapist?

Wait, so you think that the individual is at fault for doing something that they had no reasonable expectation would result in negative consequences? That doesn't even make sense.

Like if a plane crashed into someone's house (and they live nowhere near an airport or anything involving planes), would you go up to the victim and say "you are an idiot. Take responsibility for your mistake of buying a house in a totally safe neighborhood."?

Like, what even is this argument? People should take responsibility for their mistake of making entirely reasonable decisions?

No, just accept that there is no reason to blame the victim here and move on.

Oh boy you guys don't make it easy on me do you? AGAIN for the millionth time, WHERE do I say that the victim must be blamed?

I said the victim needs to take responsibility for a mistake, not for the crime, you BLAME someone for the crime, not for a mistake.

If I may say something to all that have been arguing against me on this issue, how can I make you understand that I obviously understand that a victim of rape is NOT to be blamed for the crime (obviously) or even the mistake. That victim needs simply to take responsibility like we all do in whatever decisions we take in our lives.

Right now I take responsibility for standing up with my opinion on a sensitive topic. That means I am NOT responsible for people calling me names or this guy judging me on my age (really) but not even trying to bring up an opinion on this matter and calling me lazy in my arguments or trying to run away from it when I am CLEARLY debating this issue and not bailing out.

Some of you are "guilty" of little things of course, no big deal, but things like name calling or judging on age, or judging on words I did not say etc... but I DO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for debating this and the CONSEQUENCE of my responsibility is that I'm getting all these little attacks BECAUSE I CHOSE to debate a sensitive issue. See how responsibility works? If I had not debated this or kept my opinion to myself I wouldn't be here debating literally alone against a group of people intent on making me say what I did not say.

Do you realize the irony here? According to your arguments I should NOT take responsibility for my opinion, yet by debating with me, attacking me, name calling me for some of you, you are sending the message that I expressed a sensitive opinion and that I must take responsibility for it, which is EXACTLY the point I have been trying to make here.

So I DO take responsibility for my opinion. YET name callers are still guilty of name calling or age judging etc as their choice to name call me is not my "crime" it's theirs (Not literally a crime, I use the word crime again as an example to the main issue we discuss).... You are making me take responsibility while arguing that as simply giving my opinion I should not take responsibility of the consequences. The irony is powerful here.

Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 07 April 2018