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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Sorry I'm a freethinker, I use my brain so I don't need to believe in some imaginary invisible man in the sky ruling the universe and pray to him to justify my existence.

As for marriage, for the last time, it's not marriage that produces children it's sex and you mentioned fertility and people are not less fertile cause they are not married compared to people that marry.

If people don't have kids or less kids it's because it's hard, expensive and there is no time with careers in our modern world and NOT because people choose relationships out of wedlock. Anyone can marry and decide to have NO kids just as anyone can never marry and have a ton of kids and that's all there is to it.

No, i wouldn't say you are any kind of thinker at all.

I don't think you know what fertility even means. Here straight from wikipedia of all sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility

"In demographic contexts, fertility refers to the actual production of offspring, rather than the physical capability to produce which is termed fecundity.[1][2] While fertility can be measured, fecundity cannot be."

A marriage as the primairy pair bonding strategy provided fertile people with the reasons to have children in the past. Reasons as security or social status. But since marriage is dead and nothing has replaced it, there are far less reasons to have children as is proven by the low birth rate in most countries.

The reason that "out of wedlock" is indeed a stigma, is because marriage was the primary pair bonding strategy. With that gone and no replacement, fertility can only fall.

 

 

A religious nuts telling me I'm not a thinker LOL, but jokes aside you have no idea what a freethinker is. Like I said a while ago, go back to your 19th century and pray for our souls or something.

But a fair warning, all your praying won't change the matter at hand, that marriage is not popular anymore and yet the human race will continue existing with less and less marriage and all your delusions that marriage is some kind of pillar without which, life is not possible or whatever it is you believe in, is just going to crumble a little more with every passing generation, which beyond our little bickering, is all that matters truly.