30,000 Britons Demand Trump

[Aeolus451]

VGPolyglot said:

Aeolus451 said:

That's false and frankly naive. A socialist people couldn't exist without a governing body therefore it would remain a state. It would have to become more authoritarian over time to keep control like Venezuela. Socialism goes against human nature so people are gonna fight it. Besides there's other countries comprised of different thinking people with militaries. 

You're the one who brought up it achieving everything it wanted, and Venezuela is not socialist.

Venezuela is closer to being socialist than any of the EU. He literally tried to seize the means of production from companies. He had their slogans everywhere.

Socialism doesn't want to dissolve the state. The only way the community could own and control the means of production, distribution and exchange is thru a government.