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mutantsushi said:
Kemono said:
Well, these islands don't have big value. For both sides this thing is something about jingo patriotism. As a Russian, I prefer sell it a high rate to Japan and forget about this story.
PS: sorry for my poor grammar.

I don't understand, can you elaborate? Is Kaliningrad remaining a part of Russia about jingo patriotism?
The US "owns" Saipan/Marianas, ceded by Japan after WWII, after Germany ceded them to Japan after WWI. What is difference?
Should Poland give up territory to Germany, since that was also result of WWII victors changing borders against fascist aggressors?

The US government simply happened to want to prevent Japan making peace with the other major Ally country against Axis.
Which would seem to be the normal outcome of that war, the fascist aggressor making peace with countries who defeated them.
I believe even the US originally considered that the normal outcome, they just sabotaged it once policy shifted post-WWII. 
So where is jingoism? Do you expect Russian speaking residents of islands to learn Japanese, or would you just kick them out?

What do you think of earlier 2+2 deal which Japan agreed to until changing it's stance at behest of US? Hard to get insight to secret diplomatic negotiations, but even if Japan apparently hasn't been seriously negotiating towards full peace treaty to Russia's liking, I have to say that if they did, the 2+2 deal would probably be accepted by Russian government, after all once it's been proposed it's hard to put genie back in bottle (although Japanese government rarely mentions this episode following US pressure to abandon it in Cold War). Like I wrote, the EEZ factor which isn't immediately apparent when comparing island land area, is enough for Japan to save face, without impacting most of Russian population. Although Shikotan does have small fishing town whose population would need to be respected.

DonFerrari said: 
But on your consideration of Japan being able to become a potency despite having the island, you can look on the other side that Japan have very small land and sea for them while Russia have plethora of land so on your equality demands shouldn't Japan receive the land to be less unequal?

Sounds like lebensraum to me. Rural Japan is in fact increasingly underpopulated, the phenomen of ghost towns and abandoned buildings is huge. The government wants to persuade residents to abandon towns for larger ones to reduce cost of providing services. Isolated Russian islands in the far north are hardly a pragmatic resolution to their real problems if towns in temperate climates with roads to other Japanese cities/towns are dying off. 

And is any more sense that Russia needs the island that are very low populated to escape famine or something?



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