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Insidb on 26 March 2018
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Soundwave said:
Nem said:

That's where the setting makes sense. Syfa dias was a jedi master, dooku was an apprentice of Palpatine, but after the prequels pretty much every jedi died and the only Sith was palpatine. So, this snoke guy makes no sense without some explanation.

Btw i agree that that stuff should be in episode 7 and that is why i disliked it. I don't think the problem is TLJ but the whole thing. This new trilogy feels like a different dimension where the empire was never defeated. It's a can of nonsense. 

I still don't know what these "shit answers" are you are talking about, but theres also the highperspeed jump cutting things in half. That came out of nowhere. I think you are trying to attack something that is legitimate. I guess after the first movie it was "this stuff will get explained later". Now that they see it won't everyone woke up from the trance. xD

Syfo-Dias was actually Sydo-Dias or something in the original conception of Attack of the Clones, Lucas realized it was too stupid though because that obviously meant Sidious and it was too on the nose. The Clone Wars TV show then made it into an actual seperate character, but the story arc never went anywhere under Lucas he just wanted Obi-Wan to be a detective for 40 minutes of a movie. 

I'm looking at movies through "where's the drama? Is the conflict interesting? Is the story surprising?" you know basic *storytelling* stuff not fanboy indulgement. That's not real storytelling. On that end I thought TLJ was alright. The mistake the script makes is it spends too much time on superfluous characters instead of staying with Luke-Rey-Kylo, any scene with one of those three characters I found very interesting, the other stuff kinda feels like it's there because it Star Wars and you have to have B/C-plot with other characters just cuz Star Wars. 

Snoke's backstory should've been in The Force Awakens. Even if there's a line there where they go "Oh Snoke was a dark side user who lived in the Outer Rim and consolidated power after the Emperor died" (which probably is the basic jist of his story) I guess .... so? I mean suddenly is the movie 5x better with that in it? I'm glad they didn't do that Darth Plagueis stupidity. 

We didn't know where the heck Palpatine came from or who he was in the OT, he just suddenly showed up. 

I can't really forgive Johnson turning a bunch of key characters into superfluous characters, in his own script. The only advice I have for focusing on them is "stop hitting yourself."

Palpatine showing up in the OG trilogy is explained the prequels, and the OG trilogy films are the prequels to the new trilogy. Ergo, Johnson should have borrowed from source material that explained it or explained it himself. It's not like Lucas started with IV-VI and didn't have an explanation: he didn't have the visual effects to start with I-III.

Also, the books were better.