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Soundwave said:

Rian Johnson will be fine when he gets to do his own characters, the fanboys can't be all "yeah but you have to tell us this/this/this, explain to us this/this/this, you're not allowed to do that with that character".

There's nothing wrong with TLJ on a script level per se, it's reasonably well written, the Rey-Kylo link is an interesting story dynamic that makes it feel fresher than other recent SW films, it's just a bunch of fanboys angry they didn't get certain things explained to them in a very specific way or certain characters not playing out how they wanted, but none of that applies when you have completely new characters. "I wanted this from Snoke, I wanted this from Luke ..." etc. etc.

Well, that kinda goes out the window when you're starting completely from scratch with new characters. 


So... a good script is one that introduces and removes settings and characters with no context?

 

What happened to the republic after last jedi? Howcome can a new empire just grow on their doorstep? Where does this new empire come from? Who is this snoke guy? These are fanboy questions that must be answered in a specific way? I didn't see any of that answered in any of the two movies. These are very important questions. This isn't a new franchise, it's Star wars, but it doesn't connect to star wars. 

I just have to disagree with that. I enjoyed TLJ, because after the clusterfeck that was episode 7 i knew what to expect. But in no way does it excuse the giganting plot holes. These are bad movies, but enjoyable movies. The prequals made more sense in the continuity.