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thismeintiel on 25 March 2018
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KBG29 said:

This would be a horrible move. If PS5 is that weak, then Sony would very likely be looking at another PS3 situation, only instead of being to expensive and unecissary, it would be to cheap and unimpressive. That would actually be worse, because at least to expensive and unecissary can get cheaper and become a neccesity. To cheap and unimpressive really has no where to turn.
xl-klaudkil said:

Time will tell, but 2019 is waay to early.

Money rules everything and right now ps4 is making sony more then ps2 ever did, noo way they will just stop that.

 

Times are changing and .2-4 tflop increase is not wat gamers want nowadays,then ps5 will be extremely outdated at launch.

And i donr want to buy a new console every 2 years.

I'm sorry, but what the heck are you guys expecting from these new consoles?  They're consoles.  They aren't going to have the most state of the art chipsets in these things, that came out that same year, but still be $399-$449.  Besides, ~12 Tflops and Zen+ is weak for who exactly?  Maybe the top tier of PC gaming enthusiasts.  At the start of the gen, we found out via Steam that over half of the gamers on there had PCs weaker than the PS4.  How many do you think, even if some upgraded, have a PC that have an 8 core Zen CPU, or equivalent, paired with a Vega 64 GPU, or equivalent.  Maybe 25%?  Probably less, I'd say.

These consoles are about getting as much power as you can out of them, while not losing your shirt with a $399-$449 price tag.  Console gamers are going to think they are powerful, even those who also game on PCs, since they most likely have PCs weaker than that.  If you want the newest chips, you can always switch to PC gaming strictly, but be prepared to pay for it.

JRPGfan said:

thismeintiel said:

Personally, I expect a Zen+ (possibly Zen 2, if they can get it out in time and cheap enough) CPU with 8 cores, a big step up from the Jaguar cores found in this gen.  A GPU that's basically an underclocked or slightly parred down Vega 64, which would be ~11-12 Tflops.  With 16 GB of GDDR6 RAM and 1-2 GB of DDR4 RAM for the OS.  I expect a price of $399-$449.  Who knows what they are doing for exclusives.  I'm sure they will have one or two, while relying on cross-gen support, like usual.

That all sounds very reasonable and is likely to happend imo.
To those saying its too weak, its not the CPU will be enough to make a impact on games.

Keep price around that 399$ point is much more important than it haveing a few extra Tflops.

Look at the Switch, its 400 Gflops when docked (PS4pro / Xbox One X are like 10 to 15 times as powerfull).
Does it matter? is the switch a flop that cant sell because its underpowered compaired to Sony/MS mid gen refreshed consoles?
its still selling fine.

Exactly.  I don't know about these people who are expecting Zen 3 and Navi+ GPUs in these things, yet don't expect them to be $599+.  Console gamers game because they are getting good specs for a good price.  It's not top of the line, but you don't want to pay for top of the line, so you stick with consoles.  I mean if you want to make a beast of a PC in 2019/2020 for $1000, go right ahead, but don't expect the PS5 to match it.