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Ka-pi96 said:
Nautilus said:

All you described, those enhancements to the gaming experience, were unknowns and gimmicks, as people like to call them.

So handhelds arent a tradicional gaming experience?Because they dont have a controller and a monitor.Well, not as you describe and want anyway.Or the controller, which saw a radical shift throught the decades.Can you say that the controller of today is just an expansion of what we had in the 90s?I mean, the joycons are detachable, have motion sensor and an IR camera, and are night and day in terms of functionality.

I do understand where you are comming from.The problem is that all you listed were innovation and gimmicks at some point.Hell,Many things that we didnt have back in the day is now considered as a standard when you go out to buy a console.Its not considered an acessory or a mandotory bundling.Its just the normal.You dont want "mandatory equipment" forced into your games, but everything we had up until now were forced on us, much like motion controls.And look at us now.How many gamers are left that are complaining that the motion sensors in the Switch are getting in their way to experience a good game?See where I am going with this?

We deem "stupid ideas" those that either dont click with us or those that are poorly executed, but when some such idea turns out to be really good, we just deem, with the passage of time, as something that is normal, something that is tradicional.People are used to have dual analog sticks with every controller now.People are used with Sony pushing for power every generation, even if that dosent mean that will lead to a batter experience.Pretty sure that gamers will expect that the next Nintendo console will be hybrid, because they loved it.If something like VR turns out to be very successful when someone does it right(which by the way nobody did that yet), people will just deem VR normal and will be considered as something tradicional.In another words, its relative.

Was it though? Analogue sticks weren't forced on us. Sony released a DS with dual analogue sticks for the PS1 as an alternative to the original analogue-less controller. It became standard from there, but if nobody had bought the analogue version then it wouldn't have become standard, ie. it was a choice. Motion controls? Nah, the PS Move was an optional extra, nothing forced about that. The DS3 did have some kind of motion control but Killzone 2 is literally the only game I remember it being used in and people weren't forced to buy that game, and without it you wouldn't even notice it was there. The touch pad? Fair enough, but the rest of the controller works the same and there's no additional cost so it's hard to consider it "forced upon people" when it's completely possible to ignore it and forget it's even there. Online multiplayer? Nope, that's definitely not forced on people, it's even something you have to pay extra for these days so it's quite easy to avoid if you don't want it.

You could have just said you want Sony to go bankrupt though, that would have shortened all this considerably. And bundling expensive shit that most people don't want to a console is a great way to have a huge failure on your hands which may well lead to bankruptcy for Sony...

Hold on, hold on.Dont take this personal, nor dont make this into some sort of console war.Im not against Sony or anything, nor in favour to Nintendo.I used PSVR only as an example.The things I said about innovation applies to all three, and it dosent have to be VR.It could be AR, could be hologram or simply more buttons on the controller.

As for all the examples you just gave, you understood what I meant.About the motion control, I didnt mean PS Move, but rather the dualshock itself, since it has a gyrometer inside, even if its not used.And the DS4 also has one inside, you know.And again, this is a critique to all companies, not just Sony.Relax, your company of choice is safe.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1