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Ryng on 21 March 2018
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quickrick said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

I swear to god this is the last time i reply to this kind of stuff, because even though it should be EASY to understand the point, you just don't get it and this is honestly very boring.

Benji has PART of the data NPD track, and for what i understand that's a TINY part, he give us what he can see, and he specific 82891981272 times this. His info CAN'T BE used for a full picture in the market, and he said that.

That said, so far, he has a very good track, as in November he stated that it Switch most likely would have not reached the million mark, Switch would win December, and February would have been third.

 

"But he said he would not be surprised if XB1 won" so? Do i seriusly need to explain this quote, omfg, alright, he just said that an XB1 victory would have not been that surprising for him, and he never said PS4 was gonna lose, he basically just said XB1 had a chance, but for god, he didn't even said his data showed a XB1 victory.

 

Ok here how this work, let's say NPD numbers are:

PS4 - 200
XB1 - 150
NSW - 100

 

And Benji has this:

PS4 - 50
XB1 - 48
NSW - 35

Since he has a tiny part of the market tracked, he CAN'T be sure if outside of that market he has the PS4 completely killed it or it bombed, so every times, even if his data show insane gaps like 2:1 or 3:1 he will ALWAYS say that nothing is sure, like in November where PS4 outsold Switch by over 2:1.

"So his data is usefull if he can't be sure of the results" yeah well then why the heck are you in an AMAZON thread!? Do you not understand Amazon work the SAME freaking way, as abdiel?

While he always say "don't get too much in my comment", what he say most of times is a good picture, because:

November was very similar with his data
December was very similar with his data
No comments were made in January
February was very similar with his data

For February, his data was only a bit off on the PS4/XB1 gap, as he said it didn't showed a good gap in PS4 favour, but was spot on on Switch so that was still not bad, expecially after 2 good months of tracking.

 

The point is, his data is what is it, is pretty easy to understand, and if you pretend it gives you the precise winner then idk what to tell you, Adbiel has been wrong just as much as Benji and no one was ever so aggressive with him.

 

I'm honestly done with all of this. If you understand good for you, if not, then that's it i won't boder again.

honestly he might have a bit of data but honestly its useless. why you say? well in november switch was destroyed in terms of sales, but he never hinted anything like that, if his data  can't tell if switch is gonna lose when its almost being out sold by 900k then whats the point? in december, his info said switch would win easily it won be less then 10%, in January he said it's obvious who would win, when switch got the win by a extremely small amount which no way in hell his data would have predicted accurately, in February switch got beat bad, he never hinted anything about that, imo his data is useless.  difference between Adbiel and benji, one claims to have sales info for best buy, while the other claims he has sales info for a huge part of the market.       

Whatever his data is, he is legit, because our dear danielino confirmed that. Otherwise, he would be already banned from ERA.

Imo, i think that November was kinda his first time doing those "expectations" ... so to me, the reason why he was so carefull about numbers and who would win, was because if, let's say, Switch would have end up winning November by a good margin, a lot of people would have shitting on him super hard. Just imagine "you said PS4 and XB1 should have won easly by big time, but Switch won and wasn't close, you suck!".

He was just carefull.

In December, i feel like he was more confident about his data, because November proved he was right. That's why in December he was more confident about saying Switch would have won. Yet again... he also said that PS4 could have won that month when Switch had a big lead. So you see, he was still carefull.

And he will be like this every times, because he know his data give him a good idea about how the month is going, but it's still limited.

 

About February, he said that his data showed a clear third place for Switch, while PS4 and XB1 were more close, he admid he was surprised PS4 beat XB1 by a good margin. But to me, that's still a good vision compared to his data.