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Soundwave said:
Insidb said:

We get it: YOU hate Star Wars and love James Cameron's outdated ripoff of FernGully.

"Traditional motifs" must be code for "unoriginal:" see "Titanic" and "Avatar."

One is about a historical event, the other is a 3D remake.

Actually I prefer the OT Star Wars. 

And the OT Star Wars using "traditional motifs" all over the place, lol, go read a Joesph (1) Campbell book. 

Cameron is a better director than Lucas (2) (maybe it was close in the 70s, but Lucas lost it and was a joke by the 90s/2000s) and JJ Abrams (3), Rian Johnson, lol puleaze. These guys wish they could make a movie as good as Terminator 2. 

Cameron's films move people on a global scale (4) in a way that even Star Wars cannot. There's no shame in giving the man his due. The way he shoots action but keeps things very much rooted to the main characters is amazing too. 

James Cameron understands story structure, building tension and emotion, he is simply good at what he does. 

Star Wars has been mediocre/average to bad since 1997 (5) and Star Wars was never some unstoppable box office force, it's been humbled multiple times by other IP like E.T. (the movie event of the 80s), Titanic (the movie event of the 90s), Star Wars prequels got wrecked by multiple IPs in the 2000s,  etc. (6)

I'd say Avatar persists in pop culture too (7), just not in such an annoyingly aggressive way that it's thrown in your face. I was at Disney World just a few months ago and the new Avatar ride there is a freaking 3-4 hour wait, and the crazy thing is it's worth it. Obviously some people still care. 

If we're gonna talk "pop culture" impact, what pop culture impact has Star Wars had past the OT? Is Jar Jar a classic character? (7) Would normal/regular people know who Darth Maul is? Count Dooku? General Grevious. Get real. The Matrix had more impact on pop culture than the Star Wars prequels did (it was spoofed way more and referenced way more).

1) Who is "Joesph?"

2) Cameron was always better than Lucas, by A LOT.

3) Don't hate on JJ; he's an excellent director.

4) As in "global audiences?"

5) I'll give until TFA.

6) Name the movies that outperformed Star Wars films in the same year.

7) Avatar never was ingrained in pop culture; it was a 3D film pop culture moment.

8) Jar Jar had a MASSIVE impact; people just hate him lol. After him, Kylo Ren has become something of a weird phenomenon.