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IllegalPaladin on 16 June 2008
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akuma587 said:

1. Vamp probably just didn't have anywhere to go after his squad died, and he probably has no problem working for the highest bidder. He doesn't seem to care much about his own life anyways. His involvement with Naomi may have contributed something to this, but all in all it just isn't clear.

2. It really isn't totally clear what Naomi's motives are. She may or may not have had some kind of romantic liason with Vamp. She may have just been doing it in order to get closer to Liquid's plan, but that would mean they probably were romantic. Once again it really isn't clear, and in this case I think Kojima kind of intended it to be that way as a lesson on moral ambiguity slightly similar to what he did with The Boss in MSG3.

3. I don't think Eva knew that it was Solidus, or else she wouldn't have felt such a personal attachment to the body. She probably wouldn't have been keeping it alive for any other purpose. She may or may not have known that his DNA allows you to connect up with the Patriot system as a passkey. Her going into the flames leads me to believe she thought it was Big Boss. But did they say in the end that it was her who helped reassemble Big Boss?

4. No, it wasn't explained (at least where I saw) where Sunny was or how Raiden rescued her. It wasn't totally clear who did all the work on his body either. What I want to know is how they put his arms back on! How the hell did he go back to being a normal, biological person after all that. I thought he replaced his blood with artificial blood. Once again, it isn't totally clear.

5. Raiden just seemed to not be able to handle going back to his regular life after all of the revelations about himself and the world which he came to during the MGS2 mission. Did he blank out his past about being a child soldier? If so, those memories resurfacing may have had a lot to do with it. He just couldn't accept a normal life after the events in MGS2, especially after he learned about The Patriots.

6. This honestly may have been a decision Kojima made later and just accomodated the story to account for, but he has been setting up Ocelot to be a strange double or triple agent since MGS1 (remember conversation after credits). Ocelot obviously was involved with the U.S. government, even as early as in MGS3, and it is definitely plausible that he was a member of The Patriots all along. After Liquid completely took over Ocelot, I think the way it works is that Liquid can tap into whatever Ocelot has physically or mentally, but Ocelot was pretty much entirely dormant. That way Liquid would have the info Ocelot had. I honestly think Liquid could have figured out a fair amount of it on his own though, especially with his knowledge about the importance of Big Boss's genetic code.

 

4- I doubt that he's back to 'normal' at the end of the game. I think he still has his new body, but with realistic looking skin over top. I believe his shoulders look look like flesh on an artifical shoulder part, and don't forget about what looks like scars or even where the peices of skin were placed (maybe if he wanted to take them off and put on the ninja armor again?)

6- Ocelot is one of the founding patriots, which is the whole reason for 'Liquid' 'using' him. That suprised me to learn about Ocelot's act. I wonder how he matches Liquid's voice perfectly? lol

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Back to the OP,

1- I agree with the guess that Vamp is just saying 'whatever' and working with Liquid Ocelot. I don't know if Vamp knew anything about Solidus's true intentions against the patriots in MGS2, but Vamp and Fortune were planning on using Arsenal Gear to launch an attack like they had initinally planned. Maybe he shares Solidus's and Liquid Ocelot's vision? Who knows.

2- Naomi was pretty mysterous and it really never reveals what she's doing. Was she an assistant to Para-Medic (Dr. Clark) back when Gray Fox was being converted into the Cyborg Ninja? Could the fact that she created foxdie and created the basis for her and Vamp's 'immortality' mean she was tasked by the patriots to help Snake from the begining like Drebin? The other thing that bothers me is when she says she can't leave by 'her free will' as if nanomachines are restricting her from going the same way that nanomachines can control a PMC soldier to not do certain things.

3- Maybe Eva knew it was just Solidus, but wanted to play her part in Snake's mission and make sure that everybody thought it was really Big Boss. Big Boss knew that he would die by that new strain of foxdie when he came into contact with Snake, could Eva have known that as well considering foxdie is what finally killed her.

 

5- When did she say that the child was a miscarriage? I'm pretty sure that he was fine with Rose until she told him the baby was a miscarriage, which is where he began to break down and become what he is now in MGS4.

 

I noticed it on wiki and I guess Meryl is also in Policenauts? This is where the names of those other guy's (aside from Johnny of course) in Rat Patrol 01 came from. I've never played the game so I found that to be a little odd.