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Luke888 said: 

Sorry, my bad, PD isn't center-right but center-left of course, I was tired when I made my answer and mixed them up. Renzi said he's resigning as soon as the new government is decided, this is to guarantee that PD doesn't form alliances neither with the Right coalition and the M5S... LeU is a party born dead, it's lead by old politicians, they didn't meet their 6% goal and are already crumbling on themselves, I already consider their votes to be split between PD and M5S in the next elections (assuming M5S will still be a thing).

About EMA we're doing our best to get it in Milan, it's crazy that such a decision was taken by a coin-toss, even after multiple ties.

Umm... Freudian slip? You misunderstood my point re: LeU, their recent result is unimpressive but I was exactly discussing the ex-PD dissidents returning to post-Renzi PD, conforming with your own scenario of "LeU crumbling and vote splitting to support PD in next election", via PD making accommodations to facilitate that. Renzi policy seen as popular failing (why he is leaving) plausibly opens window for policy shift, and while PD could continue in same basic vein (which Renzi seems intent on ensuring, hardly a humble renunciation), it seems plausible a new policy direction could also coincidentally mend the divorce he triggered.

Or not, but with ALL of PD not being needed for majority coalition with M5S (who only need ~10% more), an alternate scenario with PD refusing to accommodate to dissidents/M5S is ~1/3 of PD leaving to join with LeU and 5* alliance. Regardless of that, the question is what neo-Renzi PD see as viable path, about only option remaining is joining Forza and Lega and calling it center-right as long as they exclude Brothers/Pound. Or maybe no problem with them, MSM happily calls them "center-right alliance", like they shrug at fascists in Baltics, Ukraine, Bulgarian government... Who cares, if they are NATO-strong and enact right liberal reforms? (OFC being rude to a German Green is beyond the pale)

Anyhow, so what is alternate scenario if no coalition is possible now? I believe even temporary government with new elections needs parliamentary basis, so what will that be? Minority government theory depends on both ruling minority and outside support both finding it in their interests.  Not sure if M5S would take deal that is calculated to be against it's interests... With itself now open to coalition but others rejecting it, it can leave culpability to others for refusing coalition and finish with system/anti-system dichotomy.

As far as EMA, of course Dutch won by same process anybody else could have, but it seems dubious to force malfunctional situation on agency already facing troubles of relocation if the claims which supported win end up being untrue. Not personally familiar with all bureaucracy involved, but I get feeling it can't just be given to Milan by vote, but instead a technical process could be voted allowing Dutch one final chance to fulfill the requirements and claims, but if there isn't clarity soon don't wait until Brexit for "surprise", default to Milan so req's are fulfilled smoothly without risk.

Last edited by mutantsushi - on 06 March 2018