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AsGryffynn on 05 March 2018
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SpokenTruth said:
numberwang said:

Why do hate Russians so much? They are people like you and me too.

I actually don't.  What I don't like is their meddling with our elections, invading Crimea and Ukraine, killing gays, killing political opponents and developing a video of nuclear attack on Florida.

I don't have a problem with the people of Russia.  

 

Why don't you or Trump have a problem with those things?

I will explain: 

  • This is probably, if true, payback for American meddling during Yeltsin's election back when the Communist Party was the most viable option and people were thinking about reforming the USSR since the only party that seemed to be in their right mind were them... 
  • After a coup, rescinding Russian population protections in the East and when the lease on their base there was due to expire? No shit Sherlock. If Cuba entered Guantanamo and expelled you guys, would it be their fault for reclaiming land from you even though Cuba never belonged to you? 
  • I am with you on the Donbass stuff though. The threat of invasion should Ukraine refuse home rule for those regions seemed better. One of the places Russia overstepped international law... 
  • Russia has a very peculiar thing: The Orthodox Church, which makes US Catholics seem liberal, has a brutal deathgrip on many important constituencies. There's also Kadyrov and the regions in the South which have the particular caveat of being Muslim majority Republics. Gays were always going to be criminals in those areas. Vlad doesn't condemn it because he can't. The Church would cry foul almost immediately if he did. Thus why you get the awful trainwreck you had in Chechnya. For the record, they don't have these issues in the Far East, where enforcement of anti LGBT legislation has been less ham fisted and the Orthodox and Muslim's constituencies' death grip lessened due to Buddhism and Rodnovery. Rodnovers are a problem of their own, and are basically the vast majority of the guys you see in Ukraine, alongside Russian PMCs, who do run on government insignia. Basically, almost all of Russia's issues can be traced back to religious rubbish. Think what the US would be like if a Bible Belt government took over it. That's Russia in a nutshell... 
  • This is posturing, from everyone and their mother. Seriously, if you take issue with this, leave the bloody war room.