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sundin13 said:
o_O.Q said:

" This is a move which de-emphasizes race"

it de-emphasizes race by asking people to discriminate according to their perceived race? what??????

 

" I explained that statement the sentence after I made it: This means that we should not assume things about an individual based on these characteristics as we would with characteristics such as age"

so to assume that a "black" person has dark eyes, dark skin and curly hair would be flawed even though this is consistent with what we see in 99.9% of black people?

so to revisit the earlier example i made where lets say a black guy robbed me, i can't just say "dude! a bleeping black guy just robbed me!" 

instead you are proposing i not do the sensible thing and use language everyone is familiar with and instead dance around the issue by listing characteristics everyone knows describes a black person

you are joking right? i mean you don't really believe this do you

when you shut down your computer and you interact with people in the real world you aren't going to be acting in accordance with this nonsense i'm sure... right?

if that's the case and it has to be, what's the point?

If "race" means someone who has certain physical characteristics, the attribution of those characteristics is not an assumption, it is a prerequisite. 

let me ask you something, when i went to school, i wasn't told that i could self-identify my race

which obviously is pretty much the opposite of the policy identified in the op

 

which strategy de-emphasizes race more than the other?

 

"If "race" means someone who has certain physical characteristics, the attribution of those characteristics is not an assumption, it is a prerequisite. "

yes correct, but obviously there is a fair degree of flexibility

white people, for example, have a fairly wide spectrum of eye colour

as i said from the very beginning there is no such thing as a perfect categorisation, for the most part what happens is we try to come up with a generlised grouping that catches as much of the subject as possible, but of course outliers do exist