Feminists outrage at walk on/Grid girls, F1 & Darts models ban. Your thoughts?

[Qwark]

Ka-pi96 said:

Qwark said:

Considering all fastest lap times are from 2003-2005 it's not even about speed. It's all about money and having the fastest ride under your ass, so dricing for the right team. During the 20th century we had a different winner almost every season. Why because some drivers where willing to take more risks even though they did not have the fastest car. The last eight seasons a single brand pretty much won by default. Now that doesn't have anything to do with being the fastest or best driver, but with luck.

Now the 1960's 1970's and the 1980's where to dangerous. But between 1995 and 2014 there wasn't a single fatal accident. Nonetheless the sport became more and more restricted from 2007 and onwards. Even when we got a driver who is willing to take risks  (Verstappen) it's more and more getting fround upon, especially by Ferrari. Being the fastest driver should being about being the fastest because you dare to take corners the fastest way, last minute breaking and overtaking. However that driving style isn't rewarded anymore, if anything you get penalties. All leading to the fact that when your ride is faster you pretty much win by default.

Absolutely 100% false.

Sure it is arguably more about the team than the driver now. But you don't get a good car by just flipping a coin and relying on luck. It takes a lot of skill and effort to build a winning car. And the driver isn't picked out of a hat for the car either, they're recruited based on being good and also play an active role in the ongoing development of the car (it has to be built around the way they drive to get the best out of both car and driver). You can argue that the best cars win all the time, but 9 times out of 10 the best drivers are going to be in the best cars anyway, so it's still the best drivers that are winning races in those cars.

Look at it from another perspective. We all know the red bull era. It was a period of absolute dominance by Red Bull. Now we have a Mercedes dominated era. Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton are arguably the best drivers out there at this moment, since they are both four times world champions. Yet except for the last season they rarely where real competitiors for the title. Mercedes had so many 1-2 victories during 2014-2017 I practically lost count.

In 2015 they won 19 GP's. So yeah I would say it's all about the car like at least 90% and only 10% real driving skills. But then again most brands have stall orders anyway, Mercedes oddly enough doesn't use them as much.

It's pretty much visible in this list how much more important the faster car is compared to the best driver. During the 90'summer Renault was very dominant, but they didn't win every race. He'll they didn't even manage a spot on the podium every GP. Less than 20 podium spots for the best constructor where pretty standard back then. Now more than 25 podium spots for the best constructor is pretty standard. So yeah I would argue that if Vettel was driving for Mercedes and Hamilton for Ferrari the last four seasons Vettel would have had at least seven GP titles instead of four.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_World_Constructors%27_Champions