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Errorist76 on 13 February 2018
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KBG29 said:
TranceformerFX said:

Not enough RAM for what? Games? 4K? Internet...? 8GB for games on the PS5 would be double what the PS4/Pro has right now. Maybe they'll prioritize 12GB for games, but I doubt they will cuz that'd mean only 4GB would be for the OS. I don't think 'native' 4K is on Sony's agenda for the PS5, just better checkerboard 4K rendering. Hence why I don't think Sony will have 32GB of RAM for it's PS5. I just don't see it, no matter which direction I look at it from. There isn't a single piece of hardware besides PC's & Laptops that has that amount of RAM - why the hell would Sony and Microsoft jump on that empty bandwagon? 

Then what is the point of PS5? 

I would much rather have a PS4 Premium that offers PS4/XBO level games at full 4K, than a PS5 that offers 1440p or checkerboard 4K. 

To me PS5 needs to offer both Native 4K and an undeniable leap in game design. Anything else is just a fancy PS4 with a pseudo PS5 name plate.

It would make much more sense to release a PS4 Premium in 2019 with 16GB of RAM, 10TFLOP/s GPU, and Jaguar pushed to ~3.0GHz with customizations that can enhance the Premium code.

Then let PS5 deliver a full next gen expereince in 2022, giving us 64 - 128GB of RAM, 20+ TFLOP/s GPU, an Extreamly refined 16 core Ryzen CPU, and 4 - 8 TB of M.2 NVMe Storage.

There should be no rush to get out a device called PS5 just for the sake of having a device called PS5. If a new product needs to hit the market in 2019, then a Native 4K PS4 Premium is a much better option, because the tech for a device worthy of the PS5 title, and setting a new baseline for games of the next decade, is just not going to be feasible. 16 - 24GB is not enough RAM to set the tone for next gen, even 32GB is much too small. 64GB is the absolute minimum PS5 should get, and even at that it will be one of the smallest generation to generation leaps we have seen. We also can not have another generation based around mechanical storage. Launching a next gen in 2019 or 2020 with HHD or SSHD would be suicide for Sony and Microsoft when SSD tech will become much cheaper per TB by the mid 2020's. M.2 MVNe prices are falling fast, and it needs to be the standard which games are developed to, and that should start with PS5 in 2022.

Sorry but.... Another reiteration when Jaguar is already the weak spot?! Not gonna happen, nor should it.

How do you think those huge RAM amounts should be factored in price wise?! It’s long hit deminishing returns...nor are those huge RAM numbers even needed for 4K gaming. Not even for VR.

I agree that an SSD would be beneficial to counter long loading times with 4K textures and 100GB plus games, but the growing size of games would make a 2TB SSD mandatory. Not gonna happen, for price reasons again.

This all sounds a little bit like a fever dream.