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Final-Fan on 13 February 2018
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NightDragon83 said:
Puppyroach said:

You should get your history description correct: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/barack-obama-threatens-russia-with-sanctions-after-crimea-referendum-9196018.html 

That's from March 2014.  Obama and Co. were singing a much different tune about Russia before then.  It's not like Putin changed his stripes overnight.

But the question is, why the fuck are you talking about 2012 and the fact that we were trying to make diplomatic overtures to Russia and claiming that "they have magically become [our enemy] AFTER Hillary blew the election" if you are fully aware of the fact that relations soured YEARS before the 2016 elections?  Are you not being intellectually dishonest here? 



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