What is Liberty?

[Aeolus451]

palou said:

Aeolus451 said:

Basic common sense laws aren't antithetical to liberty. It's about having the most personal freedom you can within society but again within reason. It's very useful as a basis for a society because it protects the personal freedom of the individual against the whims of the collective and people are ultimately happier/better off for it. I would love it if SJWs and some religious people would adopt liberty as a basis of their beliefs, we'd be better off. 

 

So, you *do* actually agree that liberty is *not* an axiomatical value, but rather a tool we use to obtain a result of greater happiness? 

Well, liberty can't be axiomatic if some people can't see it's value to everyone. If a country values liberty and upholds it, its people will be happier and better off for it.