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Azzanation on 06 February 2018
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eva01beserk said:
Azzanation said:

If there is no more Xbox generations than you will see them hit that 200million target, that's the clever thing on what they stated. They might be running the same platform for the rest of its life. No reset on there generations will lead to a number like that.

You cannot base a success off your competition, a success is if your business grows and profits not if it can outsell its competitors. Sure its great if they did however that's not necessary. A good example of this is if Nintendo pulls the Switch off the market for there next console in 3 years time while X1 and PS4 continue to sell the same machine for the next 8 years, that means that X1 and PS4 will have sold more but you cannot take the success away from the Switch. Look at the N64, 5 years on the market and sold half of the PS1 which was on the market for 10 years, was that a failure to Nintendo? No.

There's no confusion about it. Current console are becoming and trying to be more like PCs, I am seeing the evolution with my own eyes. All systems are following Steams methods of success which is why they all have focused on the online digital side of things.

If consoles wanted to be consoles than why are they even bothering implementing an online structure like Steam? Because that's where the real money is, low maintenance and easy to make money. 

Software is down for Xbox by 10% but lets not take that for granted yet because I have a strong feeling that could be related Gamepass and that will only continue to reduce the numbers.

MS don't need to give numbers out to anybody, why should they? Its a business and stuff like that can stay in the business. How come MS never posted how much money they made on Live Subs from the entire 360 era? Maybe they don't want tell people how much money there making off you. Somethings are best keep inside the company walls. 

You are not understanding me. Im not arguing that the future might not be service baase, or full online service. Im telling you even if it where, it would stay afloat the same way consoles stay afloat. By having exclusive games that make you want that service over the competition. SO in the end anything you suggest that the future is, wont be possible if the xbox doesn't hold its player base interest with different games. If sony where to launch a steam competitor, they could stand a chance with their power house of games the would only be available on their platform. 

Investors are public, so yea they have to tell people how much they are making. ANd they started hiding the real numbers since the ps4 started dominating. Probaby investors wont care much cuz MS in general stays in the green.

Sony can do what MS is doing by launching there big 1st party games exclusive much like the Win10 Store however even with big major Exclusives that are not available on Steam doesnt affect Steam which is proof theres more to selling a product than 1st party games.

There are plenty of industry examples that 1st party isnt everything. Having games on the other hand and clever marketing is. 

Lets look back at the Dreamcast, Gamecube and WiiU.. a bunch of 1st party games couldnt win the industry over and the most successful selling console was the console with the most 3rd party games which were the PS1, PS2,  360 and PS4.

Lets look at Steam, tell me how many 1st party exclusive games does Valve make to keep the Steam committee happy? 

Just goes to show its not impossible to be successful without following the herd. 

It all comes down to how the company sees the best way to make money. 1st Party games can be expensive to make which means they have to sell millions just to break even on there budget (Tomb Raider being an example) where as you can be like Valve and make just as much money without lifting a finger in the 1st party catagory. I think MS sees that vision alot better than the other two.