RolStoppable said:
You remember it wrong. Additionally, Nintendo has four all-new games for Switch in the first half of 2018. Microsoft has had only one console that could be called successful. Nowadays they don't make Xbox-exclusive games anymore and that's a clear sign that they aren't interested in selling as many consoles as possible. It annoys me greatly how Nintendo, who have had more successful consoles than anyone else in the video game business, are portrayed as being in trouble while Microsoft, who haven't really won anything, are used as an example that Nintendo should be striving for. It's so damn backwards. In a previous post I already pointed out that Nintendo is not like PS and Xbox. You can talk about third party sales on PS and Xbox all you want, but the only thing that can help your argument is proof that those third party games are important for the success of Nintendo consoles I know what you are insisting. I argued against that mindset for years. It's why I predicted success for Switch while people with your mindset predicted failure for Switch. Of the people who bought Switch so far, there's no sizeable group that did it with the expectation to play AAA third party games because Switch has barely gotten any of those games in 2017 and there are no announcements that suggest that that will change. Your assertion that Switch owners and prospective buyers place importance on AAA third party games is unfounded. |
I wouldn't call dropping support for it's two platforms as something small.
That's actually very big, if you ask me.
I saw your other comment about the other two games.
Glorified demos aren't even comparable to actual games. So, no, i can't really agree with you on this and say that Nintendo has 4 games for the first semester.
So, in your eyes, MS is shooting itself in the foot on purpose? As in, "let's leave a bad impression on our consumers, so that when we change our business model or come up with a new console, people will be upset and boycot us?".
Their lack of 1st party offering has got nothing to do with them not wanting to sell consoles. It's just really bad planning on their part.
People view MS as someone who can deliver the games the mass market want. And despite their recent mistakes, that hasn't changed.
Unlike them, Nintendo has failed to send a clear message to these same consumers, that they can and will appeal to their tastes.
Also, it's very true that Nintendo went through very, very rough moments in recent years.
That's the difference; Again, perception!
But in my mindset, I never predicted failure for Switch.
Speaking about who bought Switch, all i have seen is people clamoring for ports of games like GTA, Overwatch, Resident Evil and other 3rd party games.
But even if they didn't specifically buy Switch with the absolute founded expectation of getting those games on Switch, this same userbase is the same that buys those games on PS and Xbox.
And that's my point: Nintendo has a grasp on this gamers and should work to provide an ecosystem where buying a Nintendo console for CoD, Battlefield, GTA, etc., isn't an unreasonable idea.
Miyamotoo said:
Yes you are, you still acting like Switch yet need to be launch and to prove itself, totally ignoring clear facts like that Switch and Switch games are selling great and that constantly have games compared to Wii U, also constantly questioning Nintendo Switch decisions even its obvious that Nintendo Switch decisions are gaving great results, with all that you constantly pushing negative tone.
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How many times does history have to show you that nothing is written in stone? For better or worse, just because a console/game starts one way, doesn't necessarily mean it will end the same way.
So yeah, Nintendo had a great 2017. And then what? Consoles are automatically going to fly off shelves for years to come because it sold really well in 2017?
Switch has a lackluster first semester. Period.
When you compare it to last year, the difference is just enormous.
Sorry if i don't take things for granted and ignore how Nintendo managed to sell Switch in it's first year.
Sony sold PS4 on the promise of a great machine and games (best games, best deals). And it delivered year after year.
Nintendo sold Switch on the promise of portability and to also sell the console it had to use not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 of it's best franchises to sell the console. Not to mention that two of these IPs (Zelda and Mario) were a breath of fresh air for their respective franchises, which yielded very good results.
So, to do this well in 2017 it had to use a lot of ammo. And why is that relevant? Because Nintendo is too dependent on it's franchises to sell it's systems.
So exactly does that mean for it's future, when Nintendo did so much in 2017? For a machine that needs 1st party offerings so much, can it pull it off like Sony and be consistent? Remains to be seen.
But for you, of course, those questions are wrong.
How can i doubt Nintendo's ability to sustain Switch's success in the years to come? I'm just negative, crazy, etc., etc.
Looking back at past consoles, if Nintendo hadn't fail so much, i'd probably agree with you.
