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Azzanation on 05 February 2018
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eva01beserk said:
Azzanation said:

Reason i ask if Game Pass is included or not because if its not included in the software sales than theres your 10% difference right there and that number will only get bigger due to Game Pass popularity.

Yes they make more money off Digital over Physical. Game companies dont make much off selling a game for $60 because thats not $60 straight to there pockets. There is so many avenues that cash has to go through. Those live subs are 100% profits.

Who do we follow, one of the largest and most profitable software corporaions in the world? Or random VG Users? Ill listen to MS, i believe they know what makes them the most money.

COuld be I have no clue. Someone willing to read it would have to verify that.

We all know that selling a game digitally makes them more profit than retail. I doubt anyone can argue about that. But no matter how much the ratio of digital to physical is, selling more over all is more profitable. And no, live subs are not 100% profit. You have to incentivise costumers to get live subs. For that you have to offer something for free that otherwise you would be selling to them. Example, the 4 - 6 games platform holders offer every month for free. Its not new games obviously, most of the time is games people would not buy to begin with. And while it hurts less cuz is not a direct loss, is a potential loss that cuz maybe gamers would have bought it, so that's the same as a direct profit loss.

Why are you following anybody? what stakes could you possibly have in this race?  But granted you are right. MS knows whats best for them. But you have to also look at the rest of the world. Sony and nintendo are killing it in the same market doing what has always worked. Had MS any success like them, would they have started looking into alternatives? 

You are probably right, Online services do have incentives.. however its clear that it is a much better way to profit when done right. 

Nintendo, Sony and Xbox have all had there ups and downs, console gaming is a giant gamble every Gen, One becomes super successful and the other fails to fire. Its common and its a dangerous industry and can be a major disaster for inventors or a great investment to some.

What started it all was Steam, a service that hit the gaming jackpot. That's something all companies are trying to achieve even Sony and Nintendo hence why PSN, PSNOW and Eshop and Nintendo's upcoming service all exists. Its become the standard and eventually it will become the full focus, Sony and Nintendo are trying to do it while not pissing off there customers and sneaking in there future plans while MS seem to be more upfront with there future plans. Hardware gets old, and everyone moves on eventually, where as an Account doesn't and it stays in the eco system waiting for the next big thing. Its a future proof system that will continue to generate money even though-out the generations. That's why MS have a bigger focus than just Xbox, there focus is also on the PC market and trying to grab as many customers as possible for there network.

Yes Sony and Nintendo are killing it right now however lets not forget the WiiU, the PS3, the Dreamcast and many more, this industry is far from perfect. Next gen will be another gamble on who would fall first and who will rise. Someone is going to lose. Unless you are Steam.

Gamers should start ignoring game sale numbers since things like Game-Pass will decrease physical game sales and that it wont be telling the full story any more which I think is a great thing. Sale numbers is usually nothing more than a ego tester, fanboys, trolls and it leads to nothing but wars. Having a service defeats the purpose of a debate which will lead to a healthier industry.