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Machiavellian on 02 February 2018
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irstupid said:
FIT_Gamer said:

...except for the fact that the memo says the investigation started due the findings of George Papadopoulos.

I have already addressed that. They needed a reason to CONTINUE the investigation. As it currently was, they had ran out of time and had seemingly not enough proof to continue spying on the person/people.

This dossier was what let them continue to spy. Without the dossier, they would have had to stop.

Think of it as being arrested, but if they don't bring charges up within 48 hours, they have ot let you go. They can't hold you forever while they try and find proof or evidence of a wrong doing you might have done. The FBI had started investigating him, yet they needed to have reason to continue investigating him. They used this dossier. Without it, they would have had to stop. Seeing as they left out such crucial details as to how this dossier was funded, and such one could say that the 'warrant' was illegally obtained.

I would not be surprised if that guy who was under investigation is able to get all evidence that was acquired during that time to be thrown out as illegally obtained.

This would only be true if the Dossier was the only document used for continued surveillance of Page.  3 times the court reauthorized continued surveillance of Page so to believe that the Dossier was this all important document to gain another authorization is a stretch.  During the time when this came about, there was so much other evidence showing a clear cause for concern on page contacts with Russia agents that even the strongest Republican would not blink on why he was under and still under surveillance.  The key point about the memo is that it totally omitted that evidence which is probably why the FBI basically stated when them condemned the release of it. What you have in this memo is a Republican who has already showed where his alligence is, giving a one sided opinion hoping to cause obstruction in the investigation.

Even if the Dossier was a deciding reason, until someone actually proves the document is incorrect, they its just as good as any other document.  Last but not least, who funded the research for the dossier in the first place.