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Aeolus451 said:
StarOcean said:

Funnily enough, besides his lack of care for the environment and inability to pick competent people, I don’t necessarily disagree with most of what he’s doing. You only see my mocking the right. Trust me, some of my biggest political gripes come from the white-knighting left *cough*culturalappropriationisfuckingstupid*cough*

So you believe in your heart of hearts that Trump is 100% innocent? Just because most people hate him, and it is most people, doesn’t negate that he’s a shady af guy. We’ve known for years he’s got his hands deep in shit like the mafia, hell that’s why Australia denied him property in the past. There’s nothing innocent about him. 

Yeah, that worked out well for Nixon

Do I think he's innocent of  the russia allegations and anything related to it? Yep. I think it's a flaky attempt at getting rid of him. They need actual evidence to prove their claims. Do I think he's innocent in nature? Hell no. I think he's an asshole and arrogant to no end. People didn't elect him because he's a nice person though.

Not everything will be brought to light until Mueller starts his trial. For all we know, you could be right and he surrounded himself with shitty people. But until neither I or you can safely say he’s innocent to anything Russia. If what is shown shows him to being innocent, then I will concede. I won’t like him. But I also won’t think he’s a treasonous asshole. Just a regular one, which, I can live with