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Aeolus451 said:
Final-Fan said:

They have said words to the effect of, "we are super happy about having this showdown, and it's a great day for America and our agenda"?  Evidence please.

I mean, the simple fact that they caved in so quickly suggests that they weren't as enthusiastic about the idea as the Republicans were back then. 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/chuck-schumers-daca-dilemma comments by a lot of dems on not voting unless they get what they want before the shutdown.

 

Here's a cnn reporter grilling a den senator over them not voting and causing the shutdown. Also, she plays a clip of schumer making some very ironic comments in 2013. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q2FG2RJKgOI

Republicans voted to fund gov, dems wouldn't vote for it unless daca was included. Republicans didn't have enough votes to pass it by themselves. It was plain as day who tried the "give us this or else" ploy and lost.

 

I always love how much the "loving left" is out of touch with reality... in here they say the right is fascist, haters, explorators of the poor, violent, etc... but when they go and discourse they want to kill all of them. Certainly with much love.



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