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Aeolus451 on 22 January 2018
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Teeqoz said:
Aeolus451 said:

I tried to give a summarized explanation of it for the sake of expediency but you're either not getting what I wrote so far or you're not being reasonable in what you think I mean with something. 

I go by the normal definition of socialism but I also account for how it might translate into policy. Like how you would change the us into a socialist country over time. I didn't go into the whole thing or touch the surface but what I did mention a bit on, you're jumping to the extreme conclusion on or assuming the worse. To be honest, that's getting on my nerves because it's difficult to have a reasonable discussion with someone when they're doing that shit and I don't think you're gonna stop.

 

Okay, but to clarify, you think Sander's proposed policies are with the ultimate goal of collectivizing US companies?

I really don't see how it's unreasonable to point out flawed explanations, but I can at least see that it isn't fruitful so I'll focus on the more important parts of this discussion:

When did it affect nordic countries' economies negatively when they applied some socialistic concepts to their economy? What makes you think Bernie Sanders wants to go any further than the nordic countries when it comes to applying socialistic concepts to the US?

It would lead to that especially if funding became a serious problem and people refused to pay higher taxes or to give up properties. It likely wouldn't happen though. It depend how many things he could made into law.

You're not discussing in good faith when you're drawing extreme conclusions either because you actually think that way or you're playing games. The reason why I mentioned taxation is because that would be main way a newly socialist government would seize wealth, goods, property and businesses from a country that was capitalist originally. All you had do was ask but no, you acted like I meant taxation is socialism. 

I don't know when exactly but it's fairly easy to find. Just look for when their economies weren't doing that good... They were over regulating and taxing too much to point that it was hurting their economy. They changed their mind quickly. Like I said, they were playing with it some. I can look this up more later on, if it seems worth the trouble. An actual socialist country would try to control their market completely and tax whatever they could heavily like foreign goods.

Bernie's comments in general. He mentioned before that he would be happy if everyone had to wait in line for food everyday with tickets....

Does everyone in Europe do that?