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Aeolus451 on 22 January 2018
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Leadified said:
Aeolus451 said:

I have gave examples of his proposals in a few other posts. Ya might want to take a quick look. By redistributing the wealth from the rich (any business) and the middle class thru excessive taxation/fees/fines while increasing regulations, it would likely destroy the economy in short order. His idea of fair taxes is very different than democrats. It would likely turn out worse than Venezuela because we have a lot of guns and plenty of people who don't think of themselves as one people or as americans. 😫

Bernie wants free schooling across the board, universal heathcare, universal pay (I think that is what it's called) and other things that I can't remember. Basically, anything that makes a person dependent on government is something he wants. Just with the free school for all idea alone, even if we took all of rich people's money, it would only fund that for a few years.

I see, I disagree on those proposals being socialist since I follow the definition that socialism is the abolition of private property and worker control of the means of production. Therefore even if Sanders implements the most draconian policies imaginable, it can only be considered socialist till those two conditions are met. Which obviously is more than just redistribution of wealth and liberal social policies and programs. Naturally I don't consider social democracy like Sanders to be socialist but I don't really care to argue about semantics since I don't particularly care to challenge your definition of socialism in this case.

Again I don't think the Venezuela, Sanders comparison holds much water other than fear mongering.

The people means the government or state. The government would ultimately  have to seize the wealth (goods, property, money, businesses) of the rich and the middle class to fund vast social programs and to fund the government.