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HoangNhatAnh on 21 January 2018
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KilleyMc said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

"On Yokai Watch, the number of games released in 4 years is the problem, the time lapse between one release and the other is what kept diminishing its sales potential, I can't remember any other franchise being milked that hard in recent times". There is: Pokemon from 2012 to 2016 https://www.gamefaqs.com/search_advanced

"I know that VGChartz numbers for software aren't exactly accurate, but they have Echoes at 590k. Lets just say that in reality it sold 400k, do you think in underperformed for what the game is, a remake of what's considered by many as the worst FE, using gameplay mechanics that were already dated since the launch of Awakening in 2012?" Shadow Dragon was a lot worse, story, characters and gameplay. Gaiden can be considered one of the worst but not the worst and sales was a bit lower than Shadow Dragon

"So Metroid Prime: Federation Forces will bomb on anything and Code Name S.T.E.A.M had mediocre presentation, you're telling me that they were new IP's that nobody asked for and for that reason were doomed from the start, why can't Ever Oasis be classified as such? Just to be clear here, I own both Code Name S.T.E.A.M and Ever Oasis and enjoy them, I'm not trying to mock the games. On the other hand, a new IP like Miitopia seems to have clicked well, that one is probably at 800k by now, I dare say, not bad at all" Ever Oasis can sold a lot better if it have a Switch ver also.

Almost all 3ds games last year are already too late for big sales because Switch. You say Echoes in reality sold 400k have nothing to be considered underperformed then Metroid Samus Return is the same. It came out after Federation Force and very late on 3ds when Switch was released already but it still manage to get ~ 500.000 units so what Snoorlax said Metroid should sold a lot better on a user base 70 million of 3ds and won't sell 1 million on Switch are nonsense and premature

Pokemon from 2012 - 2016 has less releases than Yo-Kai Watch, in a bigger period of time, for two different handhelds instead of one. Pokemon is also a long running series, while Yo-Kai Watch has only been around for 4 years. If Level 5 doesn't take a break with the series they'll run it to the ground, and I guess that's where The Snack World comes in.

You disregarded my comment about Miitopia being a new IP that found success while launching late in the 3DS life. That might point that Ever Oasis simply wasn't as attractive, in the same vein as Federation Forces an Code Name S.T.E.A.M weren't. What makes you believe that the game would have done better on the Switch? Why those Switch owners interested in the game skipped it for the platform where it's actually available?? 

Shadow Dragon was the only Fire Emblem released for the DS in the west, it was in a better situation than Echoes from the start. As for the actual numbers, I was just lowballing VGChartz estimate for Echoes, the only number we know for certain are Japan's sales, and I don't think they're bad. About Samus Returns and future sales of the Prime series, that's a discusion you have with another user, I never said that Samus Returns sales were bad nor did I imply that Prime 4 will have a lackluster performance, my only comment on that matter was about Metroid Prime Trilogy underperforming on the Wii, and that's an undeniable fact.

Almost all 3ds games released by Nintendo last year and at the start of this one were cheap cash grabs that didn't even deserve the sales they got. Do you believe that absolute trash like Mario Party: The Top 100 and Kirby Battle Royale should be selling like Breath of The Wild? Switch will affect 3DS sales, that much is obvious, but should Nintendo decide to actually give a damn about what they're releasing in the platform the games can still pull decent numbers, Echoes, Samus Returns and Miitopia have show that.

So you are agreeing with me is all 3ds games (good or bad) sold OK like Samus Return. That is what i mean to Snoorlax by using some examples, if all of them are fine, so is Metroid. But yeah, Snoorlax said Metroid Samus Return should sold a lot more on 70 mil user base and Prime 4 can't sell 1 mil. All games last year have fine sales, so why count out Metroid? I feel you are not really understand my intention