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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 January 2018
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Farsala said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You cant have a bar for first party if you have no major internal first party track record. Microsoft paid outside devs for a variety of exclusives. That's what their first party from the 360 was....a mountain of throw away second party developed first party ips. Gears was not first party last gen, but rather a third party exclusive and that was their biggest exclusive. Lost Odyssey was probably the best second party developed exclusive they got in my opinion and honestly the xbox audience didn't come out for that game. In the same vein this gen the core trend continued of not supporting internally funded exclusives, which led people to think its Microsofts who has the issue with exclusives, but rather they were working on a smaller budget and needed a return to ensure sequels. Last gen they rode off of the fact that they had third party covering their tracks.

360 was still better without 2nd or 3rd party in the first 4 years. I count Bungie because it would be ridiculous not to.

360: Halo 3 and ODST, Forza 2 and 3, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, Viva Pinata, Jetpac, Viva Pinata, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts, The Maw, Splosion Man, Halo Wars, Shadowrun, Fable 2,

XB1: Halo 5, Forza 5,6,7, Killer Instinct, Kinect sports rivals, Rare Replay, Gears of War Ultimate, Gears of War 4, Wilson's Heart,

Can't think of anything else. Pretty much all sequels for XB1, in 360 era they actually tried with a few new games.

And how many sequels did you see out of those games? The output cannot register for success if you aren't seeing any return on the investment. What survives is what grows. Thank you for showing me some of those games. Now I know for sure that Xbox needs more exclusives that feature multiplayer and co-op. Microsoft's active first party can only be greater in the long run if their franchises are a success. Sure, the 360 had a greater variety of games in their library, but they features titles that were questionable in their ability to be successful. They either need to up the quality of their single player experiences or focus on more on co-op multiplayer which is now tied with the image of xbox.

Last edited by S.T.A.G.E. - on 21 January 2018