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Aeolus451 said:

Teeqoz said:

If that's your definition of socialist, then basically everyone except for completely laissez faire liberalists are socialists lol. Nearly all tax is used to distribute some wealth from those that have to those that don't have. And tax isn't voluntary. So any politician that doesn't oppose nearly all taxes would be socialist by your definition.

 

At that point, I don't see why you even bother to call it "socialism" except for being able to compare it to Venezuela. Also, you didn't answer about what you thought of the Nordic countries. I'd like to hear what you have to say about them. Because judging by what your definition here they're socialistic as fuck haha. But that's just my interpretation of your opinion, so I'd like to hear how you see it yourself.

Fml. Ugh. Please stop assuming the extreme or something absurd. Of course, I don't mean taxing is socialist. Taxes are normal and vital to any kind of government. Excessive taxing or seizing accounts is more what I mean.

I forgot about the Nordic question. Sorry about that. A lot of replies to make that aren't simple. I think that some of them are flirting with it or dabbling in it but they aren't socialist. It affected their economies negatively when they applied it to their markets so they don't mess with it in relation to their markets but they do plenty of socialist like social programs which is fine as long as they overburden them or cause dependecy.

I never assumed you meant that taxing was socialist, I just made you aware of the huge flaw in your definition of socialism, as your definition would imply that. When your own definition leads to contradictions and absurd claims, there's something wrong with it. Since we both agree that taxing is normal and not inherently socialist, that means it's your definition of socialism (which for that matter has little to do with socialism) that isn't good enough.

But okay, you've changed your mind to "excessive taxing". How to you define "excessive" taxing? It's rather arbitrary. Some people think a 10% flat income tax is still "excessive", while some think a progressive income tax up to 45% for the highest tax bracket isn't high enough. So again, your definition isn't concise enough, because different people will have wildly different views of what your definition implies.

When did it affect nordic countries' economies negatively when they applied some socialistic (by the real definition) concepts to their economy? Can you back up that claim? And for that matter, what makes you think Sander's wants to go further than the nordic countries, since you consider him socialist, but not nordic countries?

Last edited by Teeqoz - on 21 January 2018