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Aeolus451 said:
Leadified said:

Most Western countries are social democracies, although calling a social democracy socialist is bound to piss some people off since current social democracies are neoliberal.

Bernie Sanders considers himself to be a democratic socialist but during the election what Sanders describes just sounds like basic social democracy. If by "actual socialism" you mean Marxism then Sanders is doing a poor job at being a Marxist, if not then we need a definition of socialism here.

I was gonna reply that they aren't socialist countries when he replied.

Bernie has made proposals that are socialist in nature and not something normal democrats would propose. He's very far left and basically a socialist. Democratic socialist is just a nicer way of saying socialist. Whenever someone tries implementing something people wouldn't like, they'll do it slowly. That applies mostly to governments and businesses. Bernie would turn the country into Venezuela in a few years. 

That is because he is an Independent candidate and pretty much as been one for the most part of his political career the only reason he ran as Democrat in 2016 is because you have a zero percent chance of winning the presidency running as a Independent or third party candidate.  Also the reason he is called a democratic socialist is because that is what he would be if he was a politician in Europe or most other developed countries instead of the US.  Also if most democrats had balls instead of being corporate whores just like most Republicans they would actually propose a lot of policies that are socialist in nature.