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mZuzek said:
Snoorlax said:

I'm a dude who understands how sales work to some extent and can control my expectations based on circumstance.

Ok, so you are Michael Pachter good let's discuss your predictions.

If Prime 4 sells 500k there will be no excuse, that'll be seen as a big failure because it's a rather high-budget game,

How do you know if it's a big budget game i mean all we got was a MP4 logo and that's it... no developer, in game footage, no release date, nothing. But since this is Metroid Prime let's assume you're right about that.

a wildly anticipated sequel to one of the greatest trilogies of all time

Interesting how one of the greatest trilogies of all time managed to sell so low on the frickin Wii yet here you are justifyng it's low sales merely because it's a compilation that everybody has already played and here you expect it's sequel, which might end up being something totally different for all we know, to do good numbers.

See the differences here? Samus Returns isn't high-budget. It isn't ambitious.

So i can agree on that SR did not have the biggest budget but not ambitious? Dude how many times do i need to tell you that the game basically reinvented itself. Yes, it's a 2.5D sidescroller but NOBODY cared about Metroid 2, that game died with the Gameboy and this game (oficially) revived interest in it's legacy. It is definitely ambitious for it's relatively low budget, SR has not only achieved great reviews and awards but has surpassed the original in almost every detail and gave the franchise a fresh new entry in 2.5D style... And once again, what the hell do you know about Prime 4 that we don't? It's ambitious? How? Did you play it? You working at Nintendo? Stop making statements you don't know shit about.

you talk about 3DS having had a great December in the US, but that's hardware sales

So are you saying that systems sells systems or that games sells systems? C'mon Pach you're better than this.

500k was the realistic target.

Yet SR still hasn't reached that target after 4 months on a handheld with a 70m+ growing userbase.

For Prime 4, 3m is a stretch and 2m is a realistic target.

Sorry to burst your bubble but looking at Metroid's sales record only 2 Metroid games have passed the 2m sales the rest of them sell on average between 1m 1,5m. So a more realistic target would be 1m and 2m stretch.

In all seriousness i think you're trying way too hard to justify SR's numbers, of course nobody expected it to be a sales cow but it definitely could have been another Fire Emblem Awakening that revived mainstream interest in the series as a whole but nope, you're okay with it's dissapointing numbers amd with that attitude Metroid will never grow as a series.

But hey keep moaning at Nintendo when they don't celebrate Metroid's anniversary instead of buying the games, that will definitely help.

I... can't even reply to this. Almost all of your points either make no sense, are based on random assumptions about myself, or are just plain wrong. You're embarassing yourself, dude. That's all.

Yet here you are replying, contradiction? If you ain't got nothing to add then don't...