potato_hamster said:
Errorist76 said:
After Black Friday PS4 was back to 299,- officially, mostly sold around 249,-. PSVR 199,- deal was over as well. Pro sold for 349,- during BF even less (349,- with 50 dollar gift card), so there were deals indeed.
As habam has already stated, during BF week the Skyrim PSVR outsold both Pro and X1X at Amazon for several days.
Im just having a problem that you’re trying to downplay PSVR sales by comparing them to PS4 Pro sales. Compare them with the VR competitors instead. A Pro is a wise choice for everyone getting into the PS ecosystem. A PSVR is an expensive peripheral, a unique gaming system which needs dedicated games for the most part AND an existing PlayStation console, in best case even a Pro. That’s a much smaller potential field of buyers.
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So the week when the PSVR was the cheapest it ever was it outsold the PS4 Pro that wasn't on sale anywhere?!? Incredible!
Do you realize how bad the optics would be if it didn't outsell the PS4 Pro at half the price, when it was being advertised and pushed as heavily as Sony pushed it during the holidays?
So let's be clear, you think if someone has $400 to spend on video game hardware, and they have two choices -The PSVR and PS4 priced at $399 and the PS4 Pro at $399, and you think the PS4/PSVR combo is a harder sell? If that's what you believe you have even less faith in PSVR than I do, and you can't possibly believe is anywhere close to mainstream.
Don't get me wrong. PSVR Sales are mediocre. But, so are PS4 Pro sales. Both products are still trying to justify their very existence, but here you are treating PSVR like it's so mainstream that it's even reasonable to consider the idea that every PS5 might come shipped with a VR headset because everyone everyone loves VR so much, everyone would be willing to pay hundreds extra for it. But today, in 2018, apparently it's unreasonable to expect the PSVR to outsell the PS4 Pro, even when there's 75 million PS4s already sold.
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You’re putting words into my mouth (like it’s so mainstream) and are still using exaggerated numbers. That’s not how I’m going to continue discussing with you. It’s become clear what your agenda is. Farewell.
habam said:
potato_hamster said:
The pro has zero exclusive games. In fact, Sony won't allow anyone to make any game exclusively for the PS4 Pro at this time. Meanwhile, the PSVR has dozens of exclusive games like R.I.G.S., which Sony gave away to all PS+ subscribers.
Like I said, we know the PS4 Pro sold *at least* 2 million by June 2017.
PS4 Pro vs PSVR is a completely fair comparison. They're both new Playstation products. They both enhance the Playstation gaming experience. They were both released at about the same time. They're both completely optional from the core PS4 experience. Yet, one has been more expensive since its announcement, has never dropped in price, and has sold more.
I can guarantee you if PSVR was outselling PS4 Pro you would have mentioned it in this thread as evidence to the popularity of it.
VR is not a completely new medium. I can remember playing Duke Nukem 3D VR at a theme park in the 90's. Just because Sony decided to wade into the VR waters doesn't make the experience new.
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The Pro is a 100 $ upgrade to the normale PS4 which doesnt require it. Other then more performance it still offers a larger HDD. it still just sold 20% of the PS4s which is incredible bad.
The PSVR, even during its sale, was still a 200$ upgrade which requires a PS4 or PS4 pro to run at all.
I had actually expected the pro to sell much better. just 20% for all it does for just 100$ definitly shows the market isnt ready for more powerfull consoles but just want cheaper consoles.
The market so far doesnt seem VR ready either yet though, we will see if that changes or not.
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The Pro is selling exactly as was to be expected for an iterative console mainly intended for 4K users. Price will always be king.
Last edited by Errorist76 - on 20 January 2018
