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OTBWY said:
habam said:

How much will the PS4 sell lifetime?

I dont think its impossible to achieve similar results. 

Also the PS4 is not the handheld replacement. The Vita is the Flop, not the PS4. Nintendo merged their consoles, they just do one currently. Sony replaced their handheld buisness with VR, we will see how this will turn out in the long run ;)

 

But if their VR buisness wont be able to move similar numbers to the PSP in the future, yeah, that will be a flop.

I going to make it even more simple, if the PS4 doesn't reach 158 million sales, will it be considered a flop. Disregarding handhelds, but purely basing it off previous install bases. With that, do you consider the PS3 a flop? I'm trying to understand the logic here.

ps3 was a flop compared to ps2, yes.