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potato_hamster on 18 January 2018
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KBG29 said:
potato_hamster said:

You remind me of the Communists who say "no one has created a truly Communist country yet! All of them have been compromises! You can't say communism hasn't worked if it hasn't truly been implemented".

It's just that it's total horseshit that ignores reality.

Every single consumer electronic device. Every game console. Every handheld. Every phone. Every clock radio. They've all be built with compromises. But not yours. Nope. You're going to make a gaming phone without compromises.

  • It's going to be far more powerful than any smartphone ever made, obviously have a far greater power draw when gaming than any smartphone on the market, but have the same, if not better battery life. It'll have have far more inputs that would need to made extremely durable for daily use - but still, it's ridiculous to think it would even cost the same as an iPhone. Instead of costing far more, it'll actually cost a small fraction of any current iPhone or Android phone because reasons.
  •  it's going to have all the features and apps modern smartphones have from day one, work just as well as an iPhone or android phone, be just as reliable, just as comfortable and easy to use as current phone offerings, but not be made by Apple or Google or one of Google's partners, as if Apple and Google and their partners don't spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year developing and maintaining their ecosystems. Meanwhile, in reality Sony, MS, Nokia and Blackberry failed to carve a lucrative niche in the cell phone market because they couldn't compete with Apple or Google's ecosystems. But Sony, MS, and Nintendo can do all that - and then some with this gaming phone because reasons.
  • It's going to appeal to the 200 million gamers who are going to go out and buy $60 games for their phones that they can also play on PS4s but sell *far more* than the 155 million gamers that bought PS2s as if this phone is going to be super popular literally world-wide to the entire gaming market, and every Xbox fan, Playstation fan, or Nintendo fan regardless of how hardcore they are in their fandom are going to jump at the opportunity to buy a Playstation, Xbox or Nintendo phone - even if they have no interest in those other gaming platforms because reasons.


The the price isn't there.
The features aren't there.
The ecosystem isn't there.
The battery life isn't there.
The market isn't there.

What do you have left? A pipe dream. But you'd buy one, so clearly it's a great idea!

There is literally nothing about your idea that has any basis in reality.

I really don't know how you came up with those responses based on what I wrote. We just seem to be way to far apart on this topic to gain any ground. This may just be one of those thing that has to happen to be understood. I work in a developmental field, and this happens from time to time. 

If they ever make such a device, and it is to completely fall on its face, I will be the first to admit I was wrong. I just hope you will be willing to do the same should it happen, and succeed.

I know you don't know how I came up with those responses. That's because I am using the world we live in, and the technology the world is capable of producing at this time and in the few years to come as the basis of my response, and you are not. If you understood where I was coming from, you wouldn't be convinced of such a ridiculous concept. And I made console video games for years and years and years. So what? Your ideas should stand on their own. Your supposed authority that you try to present doesn't give your ideas any more credibility. I mean it's pretty obvious you don't come from any type of software development/engineering background, so why even mention it?

What about my response seems ridiculous to you? That you want a cell phone that's far more powerful than any cell phone ever made, with a battery so strong that it at least performs the same as modern cell phones, with an input scheme that has to be far more durable than any cell phone input - for far less than the price of one of these modern cell phones? Is that an incorrect summation of the product you're dreaming of? If so, please go ahead and show me the error in my ways, because if my summation is correct, then  it should be obvious how completely ridiculous your concept is.

I won't even get into the notion of adapting the PS4's OS into cell phones, smart watches and car stereos is patently ridiculous, because that should be obvious to any with common sense. I tell you what - I'll give you a hint. Just take a second to research how much of the PS4's resources Sony reserves for the PS4s OS, Ask yourself why it is the way it is. And then, look at the performance capabilities of your average car stereo, or smart watch for example. Note how the two are effectively miles apart. If you have a reasonable solution based on actual genuine, demonstrable technical knowledge that allows you to solve this issue, please sir, go ahead and tell me.

As for your audience - Just ask yourself this. Xbox One isn't a tremendously successful platform compared to the Xbox 360, yes? I think we can all agree. Most of the people who own an Xbox One probably are the more dedicated Xbox fans and likely really, really enjoy the some combination of Halo, Gears of War, or Forza. I hope you're still with me. So let's take that Xbox One owner, and try to sell him a Nintendo phone. None of his favorite games, no xbox live, no achievements, none of his friends have one to play with him. None of the reasons that compelled him to get an Xbox over a Wii U or a 3DS or a Switch are found on the Nintendo Phone. Why on earth is he going to pay more for a Nintendo phone, using an unproven OS that almost definitely won't be supported nearly as well as his iPhone or his Galaxy (MS couldn't compete with Apple or Google on their phone OS - what reason do you have to think Nintendo will fare better), with what is likely poor support for apps if Nintendo continues to be Nintendo, to play games like Mario or Zelda or Metroid or Splatoon when he didn't bother to spend $150-$300 to get a similar if not superior experience?