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vivster said:
bdbdbd said:

I do understand that the government doesn't fully represent where the people stand politically. But I mean saying people lean left, when they actually keep voting for the right, doesn't just feel right. I do think that the immigration crisis of recent years hurt CDU's and Merkel's recent popularity. Far right and far left are mostly marginal anyway, and I'd say the far left hates Merkel for her nationalistic policies, where the far right hates her immigration policy.

I think it's really hard to say that people are on the left and try to be as far from national socialism as possible, as the NSDAP (national socialistic workers party) was a left-wing party with a racial twist (well, typical left these days).

Demolishing religions, not to protect them is a goal for the left! This is why the far left governments make religions illegal (although, the leaders make themselves godly figures).

Maybe Merkel is the face of former DDR and people with same origins (although Merkel was born in Hamburg) keep voting for her, for not to get Germany to what DDR was. I don't know. From my point of view Merkel seems to be doing the excact opposite to what DDR was.

It it one thing to make fun of politicians of a foreign country than people of your own country. Then again, it is hard to make jokes about about Islam for example when you don't know much about it, and neither does your audience.

Abolishing Religion is not a leftist policy. Just because some communist countries were anti religion doesn't make it general policy. There were other reasons for that. Left is inherently tolerant, which includes religion. Totalitarian regimes aren't exclusive to the left. Both left and right wing can have their leader cults.

A country can be far left without being communist, having a leader cult and abolishing religion. See Germany. Let US politicians look at our laws and they will actually call us communists.

How can you say Germans vote right when the majority votes clearly left? The only true right wing parties left are the AFD, FDP and the CSU as an arm of the CDU. All of them together make up barely a 3rd of the votes. And elections are one thing but the social climate is extremely left leaning, which is why Merkel gets votes of confidence time and time again. 

CDU, AFP and FDP seems to make roughly 55% of the votes (2017). These all are right wing parties. CDU and FDP being center-right, and AFP a little more on the right. This really isn't a bipolar issue.

Abolishing religion originates from Marx, as religion competes marxism as an ideology - also, as religion is on the right, a society on the left needs to get rid of religion anyway. Saying that a society on the left doesn't need to abolish religion, is like saying society on the left doesn't need to abolish racism, or conservatism. This is because they all are on the right.

Technically the above could hold true in an anarchistic society, but in the end this would be anarchistic right wing society, and not the left.



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