Global Hardware 23 December 2017

[DonFerrari]

The_Liquid_Laser said:
PS4 only won in Europe and still came out first worldwide. It seems like Europeans really love the PS4 or they really hate the Switch.

Although, I'd bet the real factor is the Switch is still a little too pricey in Europe and they will warm up once the price comes down.

I swear I heard that winning only in Europe and losing in the rest would make a WW loss...

Biggerboat1 said:

DonFerrari said:

Sony have dozen of Studios, still in several of their games on a lot of different genres you can see a cohesive direction, cinematic approach, that they look after even on several of theirs exclusivity deals.

And you are joking about Zelda being such a great story based game right? And here I was thinking it was an exploration game that you were to feel like you are link and are making your own story.

There is no unbiased OPINION, opinions are all personal and biased by standard. At most you can try to portray an unbiased ANALYSIS based on DATA.

Keep judging man, you are totally getting to the point.

Still waiting for you to show how many (if any) genre, Nintendo have a hallmark game that is outsold inside their platform by a multiplat. Because even though Halo have been considered the best FPS in several outings CoD is close by in sales on Xbox, even Gran Turismo hold several times more sales than the other racers on PS1 to 3 and will probably do the same on PS4, but most of the MS and Sony 1st party have another 3rd party game that outsell them inside their own platform because guess what there are dozen of other great studios so one or another will be better than they at some genre or another.

So unless you can prove Nintendo games are the best in ALL GENRES if you can't show they being outsold by multiplats it clearly show the positive Bias for Nintendo that I have no idea you are trying to deny exist.

For a start, I'm not talking about Sony, I'm talking about Nintendo, so making points about Sony's studios 'cohesive' approach is irrelevant - though I struggle to find a common thread between, say, Gran Turismo, The Last of Us, The Last Guardian, Ratchet & Clank & Little Big Planet for instance - can you?

Re. Zelda, a game can be more than one thing. It's about exploration and has a story - not really seeing your point here...

All opinions are biased and mine are biased towards quality game design - others are biased by things such as a manufacturer's logo... what's your point?

You can wait for me to show you an example of a 3rd party game outselling a Nintendo game on a Nintendo system as long as you like - because it doesn't prove anything... because a 3rd party developer doesn't need to outsell Nintendo to have a successful game or to prove that their games can sell on the system...

Also, why would a 3rd party game outsell a Nintendo game when historically, the majority of them are under-funded, cheap ports flung together by their B-teams... Please actually consider what you're writing before clicking 'submit'.

The quality & resources put into PS or MS 3rd party games ≠ quality & resources put into those on Switch - far, far, far from it...

Anyway, I can see this going round in circles while you create more irrelevant hurdles for me to jump over in order to prove unrelated points.

You were already pointed to the cohesion on the approach to a high fidelity look, graphical prowess and narrative games. Your point was that Nintendo have several studios so their games can't share similarities, so I pointed you to another company that have several studios and still keep similarities.

Sure Zelda, the best story in gaming, and yes others have the wrong bias because you can clearly see quality while they only see a logo, are you for real?

Yes we are going in circles, for you someone that wouldn't buy a Switch because Nintendo games doesn't make their taste is a complete prove of hate and Bias because all Nintendo games are great and so people should like the games from Nintendo that are from the genres they like... at the same time Nintendo games are so much better than all rest that they must be more liked and sold than any in the same genre.