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TheRealMafoo said:
sieanr said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Profcrab said:

Oh, so charging for exclusive previews is now the next step in DLC? Yep, you can buy the subcription, 1/2 the cost of XBL for a year, and you get HD previews and some demos. I might see paying to get into a beta, but if you have to pay for a demo, you just got ripped off. I never want to hear one Sony fanboy who pays the subscription ever complain about XBL charging ever again. The humorous thing is, if it wasn't for Qore, you would probably get those demos for free. It isn't fanboy BS, this shit should be free. You are paying for marketing and demos.

I give that post a 9.2.


So all magazines that come with a demo disk should be free? It's no different they any other magazine. It's just online. There are 360 magazines that come with a Demo disks that you can only get from the Magazine. How is that any different?

P.S. Just so you know, Demos will still come out for free on PSN. Some will only be available through Qore.

What a terrible way to try and defend this. Magazines are a physical product, and the demo is tacked on to try and sell more copies of the mag. In this way its similar to Qore. The difference is demos have almost always been free online, now Sony is trying to change that so they can pad their bottom line.

Its also hysterical how you think these demos are only available through this service. Using PS3proxy you get download anything thats on PSN. For example, I got into the Warhawk beta this way and downloaded the bad company demo when it was still "exclusive" to people who pre-ordered.

Also, doesn't Sony already have a system where you can sign up to beta test games and get access to them for free?

I give profcrab a MGS 10/10 for making valid points.

I give realmafoo a Haze 4.5/10 for a valiant, but flawed, attempt at defending a bad idea


wht is it with these I give this thread an X thing? I hope that fad fades fast.

Of all the people I know who bought gaming magazines, they did it for the demos on the included disk. The demos they could not get anywhere else. There are interviews, and original content on Qore (I think it kind of sucks, but I think most magazine articles suck too).

Also, it's $2 dollars.... $2 dollars... if you have an issue with 2 bucks, maybe you should not own a $500 system where games cost $60.


Once upon a time in the dark days of the non-internet capable consoles when demos for consoles were primarily available through demo discs, buying a magazine just for the demos made sense. In the modern age where demos are downloadable for free, yes I have an issue with some demos being moved back into the "pay" catagory. Especially when demos have been free not only on PSN but also on XBL. It is also only $2 if you subscribe. Demos are also marketing content, which I will not pay for. They want me to buy their game. Great! Don't make me pay for the Baskin Robbins sample spoon. I expect all material that a company issues to tempt me into buying their product to be free or reduce the cost of another company's product. Previews, demos, and betas are all marketing tools.

I give that post a 9.1.



Thank god for the disable signatures option.