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fatslob-:O said:
Qwark said:

Science since its responsible for the industrialisation of our world and the consumption society we live in. Which will be eventually our downfall, just a matter of time. Also without any 19 and 20th century science war could never destroyed the planet. Just a matter of time before the third world war for water and arable grounds and nutrients will start, with out linear production cycle an ever growing population of humans and humanity's gigantic urge to destroy their own environment (like every other  oppuetnustic species though). And if that doesn't destroy us I doubt humanity is strong enough to live trough a new ice age. He'll most of us including me couldnt live three days without electricity.

Realistically speaking it's our growth in consumption that will outstrip our growth in population and that's the bigger issue IMO since people want higher standards of living ... 

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Science has yet to reach it's greatest power of them all, beyond the creation of biological or nuclear weapons but rather the manipulation of cosmos while religion is no more than a social construct ... 

Science is near absolute power and religion is just a bunch of platitudes ... 

It's pretty much a formula population x living standard. Divided by a sustainable production factor is our humanity footprint. Which already exceeds the earth's potential to feed us. And because of that  the potential of our planet to feed us is also declining due to deforestation, nutrient depletion, waste, desertation, pollutants and climate change. Which decrease the ammount of arable soil and the availability of clean water. But population and living standards are both very important, but if people would at least produce in a circular way instead of a linear way the sustainable production factor would grow imensely. If 3 billion people died because of a new deadly virus or become inpotent it would also take a huge chunk out of the current footprint we have on earth, same if people would simply consume only what they need.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar