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WolfpackN64 said:

You're confusing science with morality, reason and motivation. If you elevate science above it's problems and attribute these problems to other domains, then of course science is innocent.

Science in it's pure self IS innocent, but that's the case for religion as wel. The time for positivistic pure interpretations of science and other systems is over though. We ought to look at real world use cases and their consequences.

Our current modern world is under a lot more danger from scientific hubris then religious fanaticism. Some in the world of science think themselves as above ethics. This is dangerous.

You're the one mixing science with morality as you are trying to see morality in science. I don't elevate science above anything, science is above all those things you mention because science is knowledge, yet you are trying to describe science as if it had some kind of moral agenda which it has not.

Religion lays judgement on everything, including other religions, the very reason for religion to exist is to decide what is good and what is bad so religion CANNOT be pure or innocent, it INTRINSICALLY poses values and segregates different values.

Science is the fact of figuring out how things work, what matter and energy is, how combining different elements work etc. Science is INTRINSICALLY pure. NO ONE will kill you or force you to follow a path in the name of science, if they do, they do in the name of religion, politics, money, greed etc... But no one that is motivated by knowledge will want to force you to follow a path BECAUSE of knowledge itself.

This thread makes me realize that a lot of people don't understand what science really is, they think it has some kind of agenda like politics or religion has, when in fact it's quite the opposite. In fact the very title of this thread demonstrates a lack of understanding of what science is.